Proviso Probe: CRIME, Nowakowski car found [M]

Monday, November 07, 2005

CRIME, Nowakowski car found [M]

On November 2, 2005, WNDU (South Bend, IN) reported on Christina Nowakowski. She's been missing since October 3. On October 28, her car was found in a parking lot in Illinois. (Apparently the TV news people thought it was more important to ID the corporate affiliation of the parking lot than to tell the location.)

Earlier I provided some background on where Nowakowski disappeared from.

And I first covered the story on October 26.

222 Comments:

I still think this is a big local story.

If anybody has 411 on Nowakowski or the dates she's been covered in the Pioneer Press, please email me, RadioNyberg circled "a" Yahoo spot com.

By Carl Nyberg, at 10:33 AM, November 07, 2005
First thing a policemen does in missing cases is investigate the spouse or boyfriend and financial records! I hope to God, she's alright as well as her family!

By Anonymous, at 7:53 PM, November 07, 2005
CHRISTINA is now missing more than 30 days. Please check the web site angelsmissing.com.

By Anonymous, at 9:31 AM, November 08, 2005
Members of the Esparza family and others, house rules are that you have to post under a pseudonym, otherwise I delete it.

By Carl Nyberg, at 11:08 AM, November 08, 2005
MY SISTER is missing. WE NEED HELP to find her. Someone please HELP US!!!!
CHRIS please call us!!! We will help you.

By Anonymous, at 11:11 AM, November 08, 2005
This is the email that was sent to me by the IL State Police regarding her own mother's questions on the investigation:

After reviewing your email, I will not be able to answer specific
questions
about the investigation, or why something was not accomplished. You
will
need to discuss those concerns with the police agency that took the
missing
person report on Christina. If I can help you with some general
information
or direction about your concerns, please contact me by telephone
(within
Indiana toll free) @ 800.552.8917, or outside Indiana @ 219.696.6242.
Thank-you,

Glen R. Edmondson, First Sergeant
DIC, Criminal Investigations, District #13

By Anonymous, at 4:25 PM, November 08, 2005
Chris if you are out there, please let someone you trust know it. There are many of us praying that you are alright and are on your side. Please keep at this one Ron and find our sister.

By Anonymous, at 10:28 PM, November 08, 2005
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, I AM ONE OF THE 10 CHILDREN OF PAUL ESPARZA. I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS INVESTIGATION, OR LACK THERE OF. I'VE KEPT AWAY FROM THIS FAMILY BECAUSE OF THE MENTAL, VERBAL AND PHYSICAL ABUSE I ENDURED FOR MANY YEARS. I HAVE A GUT FEELING SOMETHING BAD HAS HAPPENED. PLEASE RON LAWSON CONTINUE YOUR INVESTIGATION AND FIND MY MOTHER.

By Anonymous, at 6:35 PM, November 09, 2005
To all of Dorthy's daughters that are reading this and have left comments, I would just like to say to go about your buisness because you guys don't care. All I have ever heard out of any of your mouths was, "THATS NOT MY MOTHER," or "THATS NOT YOUR GRANDMOTHER." None of you care so I think it's funny that when the lights shut off everyone comes out of the wood work like roaches, but when the lights on you all run and hide. To strangers who are insinuating on this story you have a lot of nerve. Grandma if you read this I just want you to know that I LOVE YOU and PLEASE COME HOME SOON!!!!

By Anonymous, at 6:50 PM, November 09, 2005
my brother,sisters,and I,

were raised by paul and christina esparza, all of our lives. they are both equally amazing people. they have taught me many important lessons that i still carry with me today. this has been a very hard time for my siblings and I and most of all my granfather. so all people insinuating these infathable thoughts need to stop...you are making it harder for us.

By Anonymous, at 7:03 PM, November 09, 2005
I am one of the oldest Esparza sons and my father has taught me many was to make a living, and my mother has taught me kindness, and compassion. No, they weren't perfect, but who among us is? We were raised old school with old school rules, and that's why I'm the man I am today. I'm a hard worker and I take care of all of my children. They raised their own children and some of yours too. I think it's really sad that some of you are coming out of the woodwork now talking about how concerned you are, but for the past several years when you knew where she was, did you bother calling her to tell her you love her? Ma, we love you, you helped us with many problems in our lives, let me help you with yours.
With love from you from on the lake

By Anonymous, at 7:20 PM, November 09, 2005
Grandma also none as Christina Esparza. Has always been my mother figuer to me know one can ever take the place of her. And know all of a sudden everyone interested on to find out where she is . When before they would not even call to ask how gram is doing. Everyone who is posting nasty coments needs to stop this childish crap. Grandma and Grandpa have given us the world. And they would do anything for us. And grandma if you are reading this i want to say "I LOVE YOU." Remember i am your little free spirit. And i will love you for eternity untill the day i die! So gram "PLEASE COME HOME." If you can contact me your free spirit

By Anonymous, at 7:26 PM, November 09, 2005
this is your grandson,
i am doing good in school,im doing my homework and obeying my authorities. grandma im doing all of my chores as you taught me to do i miss you very much, and i want you to come home, because i love you. please come home grandma to all your grandchildren who love you. you and grandpa have been so good to us, we don't know anyone else who has done as much for us as you.I LOVE YOU!! I LOVE YOU!! PLEASE COME HOME GRANDMA!!

By Anonymous, at 7:36 PM, November 09, 2005
christina this is your son in law...you raised the mother of my child to be a great woman. i thank you and paul for rasing a great woman who is a great mother to my child.you and everything you have done are appreciated and we miss you christina and your family needs you and wants you home...please come home to your family!

By Anonymous, at 7:41 PM, November 09, 2005
From : Carl Nyberg
Sent : Wednesday, November 9, 2005 4:53 PM
To : Unknown Unknown
Subject : posting to Proviso Probe

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The rules for Proviso Probe are that you have to post
under a name or pseudonym.

I intend to cover this case thoroughly. Who should I
be interviewing?

Carl Nyberg
--- Unknown Unknown
wrote:

> Carl,
> I was wondering why you would remove the coments
> made by Chris Nowakowskis'
> children from your site?
> Obviously they are concerned with her safety and
> want their mother to know
> they will help her...
> I think that was a bad decision on your part to
> remove any comment regarding
> this case.
> Chris has been missing for over a month and NO ONE
> is doing anything about
> it!!! It's not right. She had left her husband in
> the past but ALWAYS let
> her kids know where she was and why she left.
> Something happened that no one
> is saying happened and the police need to know the
> truth!
>
> Sincerely,
> Concerned4ChrisN
>
>

By Anonymous, at 7:51 PM, November 09, 2005
I would just like to reply to the comments made above. I understand that you are all still very much in Pauls control and are afraid of what he can do and has done. The reason some of us had not contacted Ma is because she was living with Paul. You know she as well as yourself had been instructed not to speak to any of us kids that were able to stand up to Paul. If you had and he knew there would be consequences you or Ma would have to pay. Therefore we stayed away. I can also say that I am genuinely concerned for Mas' safety. My message to Paul is I guess you are winning again as you are beginning to turn all of your kids against eachother in this tragic time when we should all be surrounding eachother and helping find Ma. If you would like to throw daggers at either one of OUR Mothers lets go ahead cause we can all begin to tell the Real Truth!

By Anonymous, at 8:11 PM, November 09, 2005
dear concerned4chris,
you are obviously not close with the family.her FAMILY is DOING ALL THEY CAN ABOUT THIS. and are working closely with all branches of law enforcement. and the lead investigator is investigating all leads and we have confidence in him that he will find our grandmother.

By Anonymous, at 8:17 PM, November 09, 2005
To Esparza Daughter, Um I'm pretty sure you are DORTHY'S KID not my grandmother's. You need to stay out of this because you have no idea what you are talking about. I've lived with grandpa and grandma 18 years(my whole life)! So I know more than anyone that no one is under any type of control that you say. The reason we are not to talk to any of you is because you are all LOOKING TO START TROUBLE and out just to hurt. OH, and believe me I'M READY FOR THE DAGGERS!!

By Anonymous, at 8:31 PM, November 09, 2005
Wow....there sure is alot of airing dirty laundry in public here, I will only say this one time. Why don't we all concentrate on finding Chris instead of putting all that hateful energy into backbiting and pissing matches.

By Anonymous, at 8:46 PM, November 09, 2005
First of all Yes I am Dorothys' Daughter an very proud to say that I am. She has nothing to do with this situation so why are you trying to drag her into it? I know it's hard for you honey I love you and don't want to see you hurt. I also lived with Paul all my life and know the truth. Lets not loose focus here and remember that what we should all be doing is putting this energy into finding Ma C. I'm sure you are angry and have the right to be but I won't put myself down to that level and talk about Ma Chris or Ma Dort. I refuse to give Paul the satisfaction. Stop worrying about him and start worrying about YOUR GRANDMOTHER!!! If she was not afraid why hasn't she called you???

By Anonymous, at 8:47 PM, November 09, 2005
GRANDMA I KNOW YOU ARE BOUND TO READ THESE SO PLEASE WE LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU. COME HOME SOON!!!!ALSO I LOVE YOU BEYOND ETERNITY ALWAYS!!!!

By Anonymous, at 9:06 PM, November 09, 2005
THIS IS THE OLDEST GRANDDAUGHTER OF PAUL,CHRISTINA AND DORTHY ESPARZA.AS FAR AS THE STATEMENTS BEING MADE ABOUT DORTHY'S CHILDREN SAYING "CRIS IS NOT MY MOTHER" WHO DO YOU HONESTLY THINK YOU ARE FOOLING.EVERYBODY CLOSE TO THIS FAMILY KNOWS THAT SINCE ALL 10 KIDS WERE LITTLE THEY WOULD BE BEAT IF SUCH WORDS CAME OUT OF THEIR MOUTH.MY GRANDFATHER KEPT BOTH MY GRANDMOTHERS AS HIS PERSONAL LIVE IN SLAVES WHO HE LIKED TO BEAT ON A DAILY BASIS.HE GOT A KICK OUT OF GETTING THEM PREGNANT ONE AFTER ANOTHER AND TAKING AWAY ALL OF THEIR SENSE OF FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS.HE TAUGHT THEM TO HAVE NO TYPE OF SELF ESTEEM.THE STORIES THAT I HAVE HEARD AND SEEN GROWING UP MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO EVEN PHATHOM.ALL OF HIS CHILDREN TILL THIS DAY INSIDE ARE STILL PETRIFIED OF THEIR OWN FATHER AND FOR THAT REASON HAVE CHOSEN TO STAY AWAY AND TRY THEIR HARDEST TO BURY INSIDE OF THEM ALL OF THEIR HORRABLE CHILDHOOD MEMORIES.WHICH AS ANYONE CAN IMAGINE HAS MADE IT A VERY HARD LIFE FOR THEM.I THANK GOD THAT MY MOM FINALLY WOKE UP AND TOOK ME AND MY BROTHER AWAY FROM HIM WHEN SHE DID.GRANDPA I'M NOT SCARED OF YOU AND IF YOU DID HURT MY GRANDMOTHER THAT WILL JUST BE ONE MORE THING THAT YOU WILL ONE DAY HAVE TO ANSWER TO GOD ABOUT.YOU HAVE TORN AND RAN EVERYBODY DOWN FOR FAR TO LONG.WE ARE ALL OLDER AND WISER NOW AND YOU WILL NOT HURT ANY OF US ANYMORE WE ARE STICKING TOGETHER AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP US FROM EXPOSING YOU AND LETTING THE TRUTH BE KNOWN.TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE HELPING WITH TRYING TO FIND MY GRANDMOTHER I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU AND PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP.WE ALL LOVE HER VERY MUCH AND WANT TO HELP HER BREAK AWAY FROM THIS EVIL MAN.HE WILL NO LONGER HAVE AUTHORITY OVER ANY OF US ANYMORE.FOR YOU GUYS THAT FEEL YOU ARE STILL STUCK THERE UNDER GRANDPA'S RULES WE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE SAYING WHAT YOU ARE AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL FIND A WAY TO GET IN CONTACT WITH US.WE LOVE YOU GUYS.

By Anonymous, at 9:37 PM, November 09, 2005
This situation is about MY GRANDMA. Like I said in my previous statement you are all out to start trouble and hurt the family. We don't need your help because you guys are only making it worse. Where was everyone before this happened? There was not one phone call made to see how anyone was doing. Dorthy is your grandma NOT GRANDMA CHRIS and MY GRANDPA is a good man and as far as your comments go you can shove them you know where!!!!

By Anonymous, at 9:59 PM, November 09, 2005
ROCK BREAKE????

By Anonymous, at 10:14 PM, November 09, 2005
Oh by the way to the son on the lake...
Dorothy is your mother, so why haven't you called her in 5 years?? Have you told her you love her??? You are just a Hypocrite, get your nose out of Pauls *** and state your real feelings.
Sorry Paul looks like what went on in the house didn't stay in the house it just blew up!

By Anonymous, at 10:27 PM, November 09, 2005
ALL I'M STATING IS THE TRUTH.REMEMBER IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR GRANDPA HAS DONE THAT HAS MADE OUR GRANDMOTHER DISAPPEAR.WHY DON'T YOU ASK OUR GRANDPA WHAT HE DID EXACTLY TO CAUSE THIS DISAPPEARANCE.IF HE'S SUCH A GOOD MAN THEN WHERE'S GRANDMA?

By Anonymous, at 10:29 PM, November 09, 2005
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU COMMENT. WE KNOW MY GRANDMA LEFT BECAUSE OF THE BULL**** IN MAYWOOD AND THAT IS A FACT!! MY GRANDPA IS A GOOD MAN AND HE HAS DONE SO MUCH GOOD FOR THIS FAMILY SO DON'T DOWN TALK HIM!!! AND ANOTHER THING, LETS KEEP THIS ABOUT GRANDMA AND THE SITUATION AT HAND!!!

By Anonymous, at 10:43 PM, November 09, 2005
OH.SO THAT WAS WHAT THE BIG FIGHT WAS ABOUT ON OCTOBER 3RD THE DAY SHE DISAPPEARED.SO LOSING THE HOUSE IN MAYWOOD IS WHAT FINALY MADE HIM SNAP?WELL ATLEAST HE STILL HAS THE HOUSE IN INDIANA HE STOLD FROM GRANDMA DORT.

By Anonymous, at 10:50 PM, November 09, 2005
DEAR GRANDAUGHTER #1,
STOP TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO A SOPRANO'S EPISODE AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT MY GRANDMA BECAUSE SHE IS OF NO BLOOD RELATION TO YOU.
AND MY GRANDPA DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO MY GRANDMA.
I DON'T CARE FOR ANY OF YOU ALL I CARE FOR IS FINDING MY GRANDMA AND I WILL!!!!
AND TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE READING THIS I AM SORRY FOR THE BULL**** COMMENTS PEOPLE ARE LEAVING. LET'S REMEMBER WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. MY GRANDMA CHRISTINA ESPARZA

By Anonymous, at 11:15 PM, November 09, 2005
You mean Christina Nowakowski...
There was only one Mrs. Esparza and it was not Christina!!!

By Anonymous, at 11:17 PM, November 09, 2005
And another thing if you are so smart and know so much about our family you would know she is blood relation to ALL of us! She is my mother Dorothy Esparzas' cousin...
So pick up your jaw and think before you speak!

By Anonymous, at 11:20 PM, November 09, 2005
I KNOW, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE HER YOUR MOTHER OR YOUR GRANDMOTHER. AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED YOU ARE NOT FAMILY TO ME AT ALL. SO PICK UP YOUR PIPE AND SWING YOUR JAW!!!!

By Anonymous, at 11:27 PM, November 09, 2005
THIS AIN'T YOUR MOTHER YOUR TALKING TO NAMESAKE AND IF I WAS YOU I WOULDN'T GO THERE INLESS YOU WANT TO GET ON THE TOPIC OF YOUR LITTLE HEROIN PROBLEM

By Anonymous, at 11:43 PM, November 09, 2005
oh boy... i hope everyone who has broadcasted the family business realizes that this website has been created to help find Christina. When the creator/editor of this site sees all this nonsense, I am sure this whole site will be shut down- the avenue created to help everyone connect and share information will be shut down. Where can she go when it's gone? Wow, there's so much energy going on, I hope someone/those close can get the energy to approach professionals & law enforcement to really get to the bottom of this. LETS GET SOME COURAGE AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

By Anonymous, at 11:44 PM, November 09, 2005
I am an advocate to help find "missing people". I am afraid to say that I am totally lost with what I have been reading. I was hoping to get some insight on real facts as to the disappearance of Christina Nowakowski. Unfortunately, I have not read anything that will help me focus my resources toward this cause.

By Anonymous, at 12:00 AM, November 10, 2005
MY GOD PEOPLE!! Pick up the phone to air your dirty laundry. Read what you are writing about for all the world to see. They don't care about who's who. Stick to the real reason for this web site and pool all your energy toward finding Christina.

By Anonymous, at 12:05 AM, November 10, 2005
IF MY GRANDMOTHER CHRISTINA IS REALLY MISSING IT'S BECAUSE SHE FINALLY CHOSE TO GET OUT OF A REALLY HORRIABLE SITUATION.HOWEVER IF THE REASON SHE IS MISSING IS BECAUSE MY TWISTED GRANDFATHER DECIDED TO SNAP.THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT A SICK MAN HE IS AND WHAT HE PUT HIS CHILDREN THROUGH.I AM NOT ASHAMED OF ANYTHING I'VE POSTED ON THIS SIGHT.HOPEFULLY THIS INFORMATION WILL LEAD TO THE CHILDREN THAT ARE STILL IN MY GRANDFATHERS CUSTODY NOW TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO BREAK AWAY FROM HIM.ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO HE WAS ABLE TO GET HIMSELF OUT OF THE INVESTIGATION HE WAS IN BECAUSE OF ME CALLING CHILD SERVICES ON HIM.HOPEFULLY THIS TIME HE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH EVERYTHING HE HAS IN THE PAST.I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THE WHOLE STORY. THERE IS A GOOD POSSIBILITY THIS IS JUST NOT A CASE ABOUT A MISSING WOMAN BUT SOMETHING MUCH MORE.MY GRANDMOTHER WOULD NOT JUST LEAVE WITHOUT ANY OF HER BELONGINGS AND NOT HAVE CONTACT WITH ANYBODY.THE MEDICATIONS SHE WAS ON WERE NOTHING TO ALL OF A SUDDEN MAKE HER DISAPPEAR INTO THIN AIR.THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT THE DAY SHE BECAME MISSING.MY GRANDFATHER DOESN'T JUST ARGUE HE IS A SICK,TWISTED MAN.SOMEBODY NEEDS TO GET TO THAT FARM IN INDIANA AND TAKE A LOOK AROUND.THEREQ ARE OVER 40 ACRES OF LAND THERE.WHO KNOWS WHERE SHE COULD BE.

By Anonymous, at 1:10 AM, November 10, 2005
To whom it may concern,

I am the son on the lake, when I was injured frmo an accident and I had nobody to help me, I called my sisters and my brothers, and told them what had happened to me, and nobody extended a hand out to help me, but my father and my mother Chris. I did call my mom Dorthy as well. And told her as well for everyone to please call me, and nobody did, and now my main concern in to find Chris. Stop for foolishness, and if you stop using drugs 'oldest daughter' and oldest 'grand daughter' you would stop starting all this unneeded trouble, and just put your concerns into finding grandma.

By Anonymous, at 5:52 AM, November 10, 2005
HEY UNCLE I'M PREPARED TO PUT RESULTS OF A DRUG TEST FROM ME UP TO YOURS ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.MAKE SURE YOU GIVE YOURSELF ATLEAST THREE DAYS OFF THE CRACK PIPE SO YOURS COMES OUT CLEAN TOO.PUT THE PROOF WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.ALL OF US ARE PREPARED TO.

By Anonymous, at 8:32 AM, November 10, 2005
Anyone truly concerned for Christina Nowakowski and the truth behind her disappearance needs to call the INDIANA STATE POLICE and voice their concerns. Missing people are only found if the family and friends get involved with law enforcement directly. If you are in Illinois call - 800-552-8917 ask for Glen R. Edmondson. In Indiana call - 219-696-6242 ask for Glen R. Edmondson. Let us band together and all call in our concerns.

By Anonymous, at 9:31 AM, November 10, 2005
I just want to clarify why the so called "dirty laundry" is being aired. When lil miss namesake decided to distinguish between who gave birth to us she opened up the doors to the truth. You are right it does not need to be said in this type of forum. However if you can not finish what you start don’t start it! SHAME ON YOU TINA MARIE…It’s also a shame that because of your ignorance the focus to find Ma C is just overrun. My compassion for Tina is also nullified by the statements she has made. I just pray she is right and our father did not hurt Ma C. The intension of my sisters and me in outing the abuse we endured at the hands of our father for so many years was to be sure that EVERY possible scenario is looked at and EVERY rock over turned to find Ma C. Paul is NO angel nor are we but NO ONE DESERVES THE TREATMENT HE HAS SUBJECTED ALL OF US TO! What is happening here is what he has taught us; to disown each other and fight with each other. I for one refuse to do that. I love each and every one of my sisters, brothers, nieces, nephews and the rest, but will NOT stand by while you try to ridicule my mother Dorothy when she has NOTHING to do with this situation…Leave her out of it she is finally at piece in her life and deserves every minute of it.

By Anonymous, at 9:54 AM, November 10, 2005
#1 Son;

I'm very disturbed that my mother is missing! And tired of the phone calls and their remarks that she is with me. Paul has made sure that I was unable to see my mother or even talk to her for over 39 years. I have a feeling that the people involved are not telling us the whole truth about the things that happened before she dissapeared. I love my mother and am very worried about her too! (Grandma's namesake) I'm sorry if I was rude with you on the phone and I am so sorry, I am just very upset and I'm sure you were too and I am glad to hear that Paul's ok from the FAKE HEART ATTACH he had the other day and everyone calling my house and freaking me out with their lies. I will say I love my mother very much and if you are out there, PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH ONE OF US! If you need to reach me call #9 daughter, she knows who she is.

By Anonymous, at 10:23 AM, November 10, 2005
In the Esparza household there was NO such thing as my Mom your Mom. We are ALL part of the same family. Those who wish to seperate themselves that is your loss. IT'S TIME TO STOP THIS RIGHT NOW AND FIND MA! Anybody who wishes to get in contact with me can do so at JENNYESPARZA-LUCIANO@HOTMAIL.COM. Ma if you are reading this please get in touch with me. We need to know that you are alright.

By Anonymous, at 12:33 PM, November 10, 2005
test

By Anonymous, at 12:51 PM, November 10, 2005
I think it is a terrible shame for a website that was created to help find a missing woman has been turned into a veritable boxing ring for the family, yo, mike tyson, rocky, go to your respective corners and take a deep breath, refocus on the issue at hand. There is plenty of time for family arguments, but every moment this woman is missing counts.

I just stumbled by this website I do not know the family, but after all the reading I just did I sure as hell do feel like I do, the only thing missing now, is the family photos, anyone care to send one my way???

By Anonymous, at 1:12 PM, November 10, 2005
I love you grandma #1 grandson

By Anonymous, at 4:08 PM, November 10, 2005
Let's quick talking at each other and start talking to each other. Wish I could say who I am, but love everyone one of you and in some ways understand how all of you feel.....this is a sad situation for everyone

By Anonymous, at 4:11 PM, November 10, 2005
Does anyone have any relevant news on Christina Nowakowski?

By Anonymous, at 4:13 PM, November 10, 2005
dear anonymous...

How can we start talking to each other if WE do not know who YOU are and to whom we should be talking too?

By Anonymous, at 4:19 PM, November 10, 2005
for those family members who are working with police, has there been a report filed? are they following up on any leads? has the police interviewed everyone involved? did anyone check women's shelters? looked through her computer? bank records? phone records? atm transactions?it's amazing she could just "vanish".
has there been a search at the indiana location for her? are there posters up? all rocks unturned? friends contacted? is her job involved in the efforts? who can fill us in on this? since we are all looking for updates, can the family come forward and share some details here?
There are private investigators who can be hired if the efforts with police are not working. wouldn't the husband/kids spend every dollar to find answers? who really cares?

By Anonymous, at 4:47 PM, November 10, 2005
Paul... would you like to answer the above questions?

By Anonymous, at 4:55 PM, November 10, 2005
also does anyone have anymore information about the letter that was found in the car by paul?

By Anonymous, at 6:13 PM, November 10, 2005
Is it really true Chris left with a check for $135,000 for a settlement from when she sued Taddeo for firing her?If not why was this made up?Was that check ever cashed?

By Anonymous, at 6:31 PM, November 10, 2005
I've started a new thread on the Nowakowski disappearance.

By Carl Nyberg, at 6:54 PM, November 10, 2005
it seems like paul esparza may have some explaining to do. but it looks like everyone is scared of him. could others be in danger if they speak up? could he be putting a hampering on this investigation because of his political ties? i am on the sideline, looking in, but there is much to be revealed. let's "campaign" to bring christina home!!

By Anonymous, at 7:38 PM, November 10, 2005
"And you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free. (John 8:32)" - Bible

"Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth."- Buddhist Quote

By Anonymous, at 7:48 PM, November 10, 2005
We are all waiting for questions to be answered.

By Anonymous, at 7:49 PM, November 10, 2005
I appreciate the spirited debate
However I wonder how many are personally involved and how many are talking smack

By Anonymous, at 9:23 PM, November 10, 2005
I have sat here and finally got a chance to read all this BS that has been posted about my family and my heart is breaking. It is quite obvious who is sincere in helping find my mother and it is blatently obvious who is NOT. Mom sooner or later you will be reading all this and i truely appologize that that you have to sift through crap to get to the REAL whole hearted responses. Love you.

By Anonymous, at 11:17 PM, November 10, 2005
now all the quacks will be coming out of the woodword...un freakin believeable

By Anonymous, at 11:24 PM, November 10, 2005
From the beginning of this forum, facts about this story were wrong. I know what the argument was about, i know what she took with her and I know what was found in the car when the car was found, but i refuse to post it here because the people who need to know these things know them all-ready, therefore if you are unaware of all of this, you are not close to the family, and i am not going to open the doors to unsubstantiated remarks that are being made on why she left.

By Anonymous, at 12:47 AM, November 11, 2005
Then solve your family problems on your own...don't get others involved. LOOKS LIKE PAUL WON AGAIN.

By Anonymous, at 8:23 AM, November 11, 2005
It's definately hard to fight the Devil...
Although I don't feel he has won.
His dirty lil secrets got out! That's enough for me.

By Anonymous, at 8:57 AM, November 11, 2005
In response to everyone who knows why she disappeared...

then LET HER GO.

By Anonymous, at 9:52 AM, November 11, 2005
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN,
THIS CASE ON CHRISTINA ESPARZA HAS BEEN CLOSED. SHE IS ALIVE AND WELL.THIS IS FROM A VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF THE FAMILY.

By Anonymous, at 9:52 AM, November 11, 2005
Chris is so called found? By a friend? I don't believe it! Paul
controlls the situation again.
As soon as his dirity laundry is aired (And only a small fraction was aired....there is more...lots)
He controlls this by having a friend call for Chris.......but
no one has spoke to Chris directly.VERY STRANGE!!!! The abuser of women and children Paul,
at least the world knows your True Colors....

By Anonymous, at 2:00 PM, November 11, 2005
You Liair!! We need proof!! Not
Paul's bull!!

By Anonymous, at 2:30 PM, November 11, 2005
If she were truly found wouldn't the angelsmissing site have moved her status to FOUND? The site says she is MISSING.

By Anonymous, at 3:45 PM, November 11, 2005
WORD THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE IS RON LARSON GOT A CALL FROM A SUPPOSED FRIEND OF THE FAMILY THAT SAYS CHRIS IS ALIVE AND WELL.IF THIS IS TRUE HOW COME SHE HAS NOT GOT INTO CONTACT WITH ANY ONE OF HER CHILDREN OR FAMILY MEMBERS.I KNOW THAT IF CHRISTINA WAS REALLY SAFE SHE WOULD GIVE ALL OF US WORD HERSELF THAT SHE IS OKAY.SHE IS NOT THE ONE HERE THAT ENJOYS MAKING EVERYBODY GO CRAZY AND WORRY.THAT TYPE OF THING FITS PAUL'S PROFILE WHICH IS WHY HE PULLED HIS WHOLE FAKE HEARTATTACK ACT AND SUPPOSEDLY SIGNED HIMSELF OUT OF THE HOSPITAL THE SAME DAY.YEAH THAT'S RIGHT HE WAS ABLE TO SIGN HIMSELF OUT MINUTES AFTER HE WAS DONE FROM COMING IN AND OUT OF CONSCIOUNENCE.YEAH RIGHT!THE REAL TRUTH IS HE'S PROBABLY ON THE VERGE OF HAVING A HEARTATTACK RIGHT NOW BECAUSE HE'S LOSING CONTROL OF THIS SITUATION AND ALL THE TRUTH AND HIDDEN SECRETS WILL BE EXPOSED IN THE END.BY THE WAY CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND WHY DON'T YOU LET US KNOW WHO YOU REALLY ARE.WHAT ARE YOU SO SCARED OF.IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH HOW CAN WE GET IN CONTACT WITH HER OURSELVES SO WE CAN ALL KNOW THAT SHE'S REALLY OKAY.ALSO I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS FAMILY FOR YEARS AND HAVE NEVER KNOWN OF PAUL LETTING ANYONE KEEP A CLOSE FAMILY FRIEND.IF HE DID THAT HE WOULD RISK PEOPLE KNOWING WHAT REALLY GOES ON IN HIS HOUSEHOLD.

By Anonymous, at 4:11 PM, November 11, 2005
Dear closer friend of the family...LMAO...get a life....every single one of us has CLOSE friends that we went to grade school with and STILL have as friends....and FYI anyone can sign themselves out of a hospital even if it is against the doctors opinion..DUH!

By Anonymous, at 4:40 PM, November 11, 2005
STILL WAITING FOR A LINK TO KNOW THAT CHRIS REALLY IS OKAY

By Anonymous, at 5:52 PM, November 11, 2005
It sure is quiet on the farm today.

By Anonymous, at 6:13 PM, November 11, 2005
this is about chris not paul bashing...this just yet again proves that...no one who writes on this web site truely cares about the situation...and maybe just maybe all this BS everyone is talking is the reason she hasnt made contact with her family...maybe all this DRAMA pushed her to leave. honestly who would wanna contact people who are only talking all this negativity. if you have questions why dont u call the detective in charge of the case...if your close to the family or are actually involved you know how to contact him...and he will tell you the truth...which is that he has made contact with her.

By Anonymous, at 9:15 PM, November 11, 2005
We don't mean to disrespect you in any way Uncle Mark but...
Well we have to tell you it's real easy to say that something is in the history books if YOU DID NOT LIVE IT! We still live this every day of our lives. It affects us in every way in everything we do. Also we're sorry if anyone who reads about this doesn't like it but how would you like to have lived it??? In growing up as an Esparza there were many adults in our lives who knew what was going on behind closed doors. They chose to turn a blind eye to it all. Well we are now adults and REFUSE to do that! This man will never do to us or our children what he did in the past. We will not let history repeat itself!
For those who believe we are feuding with each other, actually that is NOT the case. There are 7 of us children who are no longer under this mans control and we will fight for the remaining 3 if we have to.

To our mother,
Ma if you are out there and reading this please call one of us just so we can hear your voice. You don't have to answer any questions or tell us where you are
we only want to know you are safe.
We love you,
Esparza kids

By Anonymous, at 10:42 AM, November 12, 2005
Why don't you ask yourself Paul about what happened in that front bathroom in Maywood?

And the plot thickens...

By Anonymous, at 11:50 AM, November 12, 2005
Dear Esparza "kids"

Do me a favor and do not add me to that BS. How quickly you have all forgotten WHO you went to when you needed something or had no place to live or who helped some of you get your first homes, YOUR FATHER DID!

Your going to fight for the remaing 3 hahahaha...sorry but stay out of my life, you all love chaos and i will not be dragged into your back stabbing world. There is no one in danger, there is no one petrified....save the drama for more useful things going on in YOUR lives.

Mom, i love you too much to have you read all this, i wish i could erase all the crap but i cannot. You know my cell # and my e-mail address, use one of them PLEASE!

Double A's ;)

By Anonymous, at 11:59 AM, November 12, 2005
memories...are you kidding me! what are your intentions posting this chit on here?????? ever hear of a pen, paper and a stamp? There is a time and a place for everything and apparently your intentions are quite malicious and differ drastically with the people who are concentrating on finding Chris.

By Anonymous, at 12:06 PM, November 12, 2005
So then you agree with us and think she is still missing???

By Anonymous, at 1:16 PM, November 12, 2005
Don't count me as one of the 7....I know what happened in the bathroom in Maywood. You were missing for a week while all of us were looking for you. You were found with David and when you were found you were doing drugs and yes, you were brought home and put in the bathroom because that was the only way to keep you from doing drugs, and you kept sneaking out the window. So don't count me as part of your 7. Evidentally you're still doing drugs with your daughter. Ask your daughter why her husband Danny was a selling drugs when she lived with him. ASk sister #10 why she called crime stoppers on sister #1. It was because she was running a crack house 2 doors down from her. Easy enough to check with the police department on that one. So continue putting your dirty laundry out there and it will stick to you. Sister #10...where is your husband at and why did he get fired from his job, and how long has he been on drugs? It's all a matter of record. So, once again, do NOT count me as part of your 7.

By Anonymous, at 1:21 PM, November 12, 2005
Sister #10, are you still invading peoples privacy by running unauthorized credit checks at comcast where you work? By the way when you lived in Melrose Park on 1st ave, who painted it, installed air conditioners for you, paid 2 months rent, only for you to get evicted? Then who moved you? It was DAD. I see that one of the so-called 7 wants no part of this, so now there's only 6. I don't want to be part of the 6 either so, let's see who's standing with you now #10 and #1 and by the way #1 did you ever pay Dad back the 5000 dollars you borrowed from him because you needed it. So, look at yourselves closely in the mirror and the only evil you see is your own reflection

By Anonymous, at 1:44 PM, November 12, 2005
From daughter #1 I do not do drugs I do not sell drugs I NEVER borrowed 5000 dollars from my father and I think you are all full of S**t. I'm an adult person now and don't care what anybody says I do not answer to anybody...
HAHAHA for all those stuck in that house!
P.S. stop grasping at straws and creating all these lies.
Paul knows what he did and that's why my mom left!!! I feel sorry for those who feel they need to hide and protect his cruelties. Some of us may have problems but it can all be traced back to our father!!!

By Anonymous, at 3:44 PM, November 12, 2005
Please put new comments in the new discussion thread.

By Carl Nyberg, at 3:51 PM, November 12, 2005
I have to say I don't know who or why they are turnng this into the soap opera that it is but what does any of this have to do with Chistinas' being missing? I think you should all just give it up and remember that there is a missing person here.

By Anonymous, at 4:10 PM, November 12, 2005
to son # 1 and daughter # 9 how dare you broadcast those dirty lies on here about me! I know you want to protect your father but
I would never protect him at the expense of my mother. I feel in my heart that something bad has happened and you know what I am talking about. The investigators need to know that she is not missing for no reason. They also need to know that we have an abusive dad that likes to beat on women and children. I only pray to God that she is okay and still alive! My intensions were not to put everyones mistakes out into public but I will open my mouth about my father. I don't believe that he truly loves her he is only suffering now because he is a control freak and he's loosing control. He needs her in his life only to have someone to control from what I just learned today he was diagnosed manic depressive years ago and refused to take his medicine. He needs to get back on it before something serious happens. If Ma does go back to the farm I only pray she will be safe there.

By Anonymous, at 4:44 PM, November 12, 2005
to daughter # 9 and son # 1 I personally took Ma to the doctor about 15 years ago She was diagnosed with a partially collapsed traechea. Now how do you think that happened? Do you love your mother that much that you want her back in that environment? Well I love her so much I want her out of it!!! Ma if you are reading this I want you to know I am moving to a warm state within 6 weeks. Contact me through my e-mail address JennyEsparza-Luciano@hotmail.com or through my daughter and you are welcome to come with me. I would never ever say a word to anyone that would harm you about where you are. If you don't want to come with at least let me know that you are okay.

By Anonymous, at 5:09 PM, November 12, 2005
From #1 son....I love all my sisters and brothers with warts and all, please let's stop this now. I love Ma Chris and Ma Dort, so please please let's stop this, all we're doing is entertaining the masses, Ma Chris...please just contact us,
Love,
Your son on the lake

By Anonymous, at 6:21 PM, November 12, 2005
HEY SUZY' I THOUGHT YOU WERE DOUBLE A'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE A SMALL CHEST. ( BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WRITE.)

By Anonymous, at 7:42 PM, November 12, 2005
THIS WILL BE THE LAST COMMENT I POST UP ON THIS WEBSIGHT.AMANDA AND P.J. I LOVE GUYS VERY MUCH AND WANT YOU TO KNOW ONCE YOU ARE 18 YEARS OLD AND ARE ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM HAVING TO GO THROUGH THE STUFF THAT YOU DO I WILL ALWAYS MAKE SURE THERE IS A WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO GET IN CONTACT WITH ME.BOTH OF YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO COME LIVE WITH ME.I LOVE YOU GUYS VERY MUCH AND WILL ALWAYS BE THERE TO HELP YOU.IT IS HARD FOR US TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP NOW BUT PLEASE ALWAYS REMEMBER I WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT YOU GUYS AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE WELCOME IN MY HOUSEHOLD.MY PHONE NUMBER WILL ALWAYS STAY THE SAME(708)218-0367 MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS LISAMM03@HOTMAIL.COM.TO EVERYBODY ELSE IN MY FAMILY THERE IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.I LOVE EVERYBODY & NEVER WISH ANYTHING BAD TOWARDS ANY OF YOU.SOMETIMES THE TRUTH HURTS BUT WE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF MAKING WHAT WE WILL OF OUR LIVES.

By Anonymous, at 8:04 PM, November 12, 2005
I HAVE TO SAY, I AM VERY PROUD OF MY FRIEND FOR NOT RESPONDING TO THE PREVIOUS POST. I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR 17 YEARS AND SHE IS FAR FROM BEING A MONSTER. SHE IS THE MOST LOVING AND DEDICATED MOTHER I KNOW. LIFE HAS THROWN HER SO MANY CURVE BALLS, AND SHE HAS DEALT WITH THEM WITH HER HEAD HELD HIGH. I AM PROUD TO CALL HER MY VERY DEAR FRIEND.

By Anonymous, at 12:08 AM, November 13, 2005
How many of you are really still worried about Chris?

By Anonymous, at 12:19 AM, November 13, 2005
You are all sick! Reread your words. Does that tell you how much you love each other. You need help! Leave each other alone. Your anger will always be with you if you dont understand and let it go. Your sisters and brothers are not the problem. It was how you were raised. Get your help. For you to be a contended person. Then you can do good for your children if have any. If I was a judge I would order all of you into therpy. Your anger will destroy you. I pray for Christina and family. If I would be Christina I would go to a newspaper and a lawyer. To do a interview and and get legal advise. To let anyone and everyone know that she is safe and what her are wishes. To be with family or not. That is her right. This would stop it all. I hope she runs for the hills.You all are trying to controll this. STOP THIS NOW! Again I pray for all of you. God Bless Christina and be safe

By Anonymous, at 7:17 AM, November 13, 2005
To those of you who knew what was written in the letter found in the abandoned car...

Why have you put everyone through all of this for your selfishness? She has not contacted anyone because she said "SHE WANTED TO START A NEW LIFE". When someone says they want to start and new life and they do not have contact with you, what do you think that means. You need to close that missing person page. You did not have to report her missing in the first place and start calling everyone to say she was. All you want is to have her back so you can beat her and control her. You knew why she left. All the ABUSE is true... the rest is not. Those who truly love her will leave her alone so she can finally have some peace in her life. I think you who do not let her go should stop harrassing the rest.

By Anonymous, at 9:46 AM, November 13, 2005
Please make new comments in the current discussion thread.

Feel free to refer back to stuff from this discussion.

By Carl Nyberg, at 2:19 PM, November 13, 2005
omg are all of you serious? i mean come on ur all actin like 2 year olds....someones missin (who we all love very much) and your all focusin on what happened 2 million years ago between the families....pull it together people....(ohh and i agree with Tina!!!!) Paul is a great man, and i kno he would NEVER do anything too hurt Chris....NEVER EVER! and all of you really need too stop makin stuff up because ur gunnah end up makin somethin the wrong way and someone who is innocent can get hurt....and that is very wrong, no im not a part of this family, but i am close enough i am BEST FRIENDS with one of the Esparza grand daughters and will always be here for her. and i spent A LOT of time with this family and kno enough too kno that g-pa Paul is one of the best men i kno. if hes such a "bad" man (which i kno hes not) then y would he take in Amanda Pj and Tina....he loves them soo much....y cant all of you just see that? you guys are mad at him for other stupid-little reasons and are takin it out on him now....THATS NOT RIGHT, soo get yourself together and stop makin **** upp because seriously its LAME and OLD! because Paul loves Chris very much....and none of you can change that SO STOP TRYIN TOO!!!!

<3 we do miss and love you g-ma Chris!!!!
prayin and hopin your okay!

PS: lets start actin our ages people!

By Anonymous, at 11:27 PM, November 13, 2005
Frank Jr., Corbino says......
The truth- Mom is not missing! She is in a safe house and does not want to be bothered. I was contacted by my mom twice by phone (number was blocked) and she would not tell me where she was at to protect me, my family and herself. She told me she left because of loosing her home and the kids getting rid of her personal items and abuse from Paul over the years. THESE ARE WORDS FROM MY MOTHER no speculation, this is WHAT SHE SAID. I'm sorry that I didn't say anything sooner, she wants to be left alone and start a new life. I do respect that and so should everyone else. Everyone should not act dumb as to why she left, she told me the letters were left in the vehicle explaining why she left and not to bother her. I have been in contact with the Detective from Starke County IN. Ron Lawson last week Thursday and told him exactly what I knew. If anyone else wants to know.....call him. I love my mom and want her to be happy and if you love her, RESPECT what she wants. For all the grandchildren, please do not send me any letters or packages because I have NO WAY TO GET Them to HER. For any of the grownups: do not call me, do not send me packages,I can't get them to her, she is in a safe house and I don't know where it is. Anything else you hear is just speculation. The detective was contacted from the people from the safe house and informed them of this. These organizations are set up this way to protect Women & children who are in bad situations. THE TRUTH: I was never able to see my sisters, I met Suzi once, never talked to Dawn or saw her, and talk to Tammy every once in a while. I know it is horrible when the HUB of your family is gone and everything else revolves around her, I am very sorry for that. Thankfully I had nothing to do with it. I have lived 43 years without all of the extra relatives and will continue to do that happily, just with my family here. This is the TRUTH! I thought everyone cares needed to hear this. In Moms time she will contact the people she loves.
P.S. I'm sure the detective has contacted Paul Esparza and informed him of this information and would have been the first person told this.
THE TRUTH......

By Anonymous, at 9:54 AM, November 14, 2005
i cant believe family members are talkin this bad about other family members!!!! GET OVER YOURSELFS!

By Anonymous, at 3:35 PM, November 14, 2005
To all the people reading the Esparza saga, Do you now have confirmation that Chris left
because of the abuse. To the people that Thought you knew
the family well...I guess you
don't, only family members
knew what was going on behind
closed doors. Let this woman
get the help she needs and deserves. I hope all those kids
from this man can get profesional help also. All you kids, whom
are now adults need to stick together. I pray for you All.

By Anonymous, at 4:00 PM, November 14, 2005
FAMILIA never questions you,
It doesn't have to ask.
It shows in WHAT you say and DO,
no matter what the task.

We may not see eye to eye,
but i am there holding your hand.
Together we must work and try,
to keep God's simple plan.

A man named Jesus shows the way,
He teaches us what to do.
"Love one another everyday,
as much as I love you."

When trial and troubles challenge you,
and life seems so unfair.
Hand and hand we'll see them through,
together we can bear.

Over the years as we grow,
it may be put to the test.
It's truely up to US you know,
because as FAMILIA we are the best.

By Anonymous, at 10:04 PM, November 14, 2005
You guys need to live and let live and just be happy Chris is finally finding some happiness. I'm sure she would not have left kids in Pauls care if she thought they were in harms way. Obviously, she knows these children will be fine. Everyone needs to stop throwing daggers at each other and take responsibilities for their own mistakes made in their lives and stop blaming everyone else. Those children in that household with Paul love him dearly and don't want to go anywhere else. Please, these words that are being exchanged here are only hurting them more than anyone else. Let these kids start healing and putting their lives back together again. They are in enough pain with Chris leaving and they don't need more pain added to them right now.

From a person who wants to see everyone happy.

By Anonymous, at 11:53 AM, November 15, 2005
First we must take care of ourselves. Then we can help others. Do not bring the kids into this again.

By Anonymous, at 12:05 PM, November 15, 2005
God bless you, I hope everyone can take care of themselves and I hope everyone can find some peace within themselves.

By Anonymous, at 1:12 PM, November 15, 2005
Most of you need to contain yourselves. This is rediculous. And excuse me, but half of you, very ignorant people, don't even live out here. My grandfather took no house from my grandmother Dorthy. She MOVED and left the house there without Grandpa knowing. Stop bickering like a bunch of 4 year olds, I'm sorry they're more mature then you, 2 year olds, and just let her be. Grandma is most likey safe, she would not have left without thinking where to go and what to do, and she would not have Tina, Mandy, and PJ there is he's such a horriable person. And Frank, stop with your lies.

THERE WAS NO ABUSE.
Quit exadurating everything. You're just trying to point fingers at your own father, and I'm greatly ashamed of you.

Grandma if you're reading this, I want you to know that you don't have to come back until you're ready, no matter how long that is. I love you so much.

By Anonymous, at 4:08 PM, November 15, 2005
Ok I worded that wrong.

Grandma if you are reading this, you don't have to come back home until you're ready, and we greatly miss you, please come home soon. Nobody is mad at you.

By Anonymous, at 4:17 PM, November 15, 2005
Paul if you were any kind of MAN you would be monitoring what the children are doing on the internet.

By Anonymous, at 4:30 PM, November 15, 2005
hello grandma this is your granddaughter Elena. Gram we miss you so much. i just want you to know that Natalia is cutting her first tooth. Grandpa told me that you used to put rum on the babies gums but we had grandpa go to the store to get orajel for the baby. we looked all over the house for some because grandpa said you most likely had some somewhere. but we couldnt find it. Tina is doing okay but misses you very much. Pj is a typical boy but you can see in his eyes that part of him is missing and that is you grandma. Amanda is another story, she is the one i think is hurting the most, but shes doing everything you told her to do in your letter. but it is very difficult for her because she misses you so very very much. Youd be very proud of her she was failing english and she came home with her test and now is passing with a B+. Every morning we feed the ducks I can't believe how you trained the ducks to come for breakfast. grandpa and I feed them bread, and they all surround us. we know in our heart that you are monitoring this web site. so if you read this we wanna thank the anonymous person who wrote that the kids were safe here and that grandma would not leave them in harms way. Grandpa has to now monitor the phone calls. so that none of us hear the nasty messages. Some people must really enjoy tormenting someone who has nothing but love to give to all his grandkids. you were so proud always that you had 32 grandchildren. even though you did not see all of them, you still loved us all the same. you and grandpa always put family first and was always there to help anyone who needed it. grandma i read your letter, and i see the deep love you have for grandpa. And i see in grandpas face the love he has for you. He trys to joke by saying "grandma put me on a diet again" gram hes down to 165. he looks good. he lost his belly. gram there is no need to punish yourself for what happened. And there is no reason to stay away from people who...to quote you gram "beyond eternity." we all argeed that there will not be a holiday we can celebrate without you here, and we will not celebrate christmas because that was your holiday. So we will treat it as a normal day. Gram i am overwhelmed by what you and grandpa has done to this farm, it is amazing. On a happier note Grandpa got Matt a great great job, he gets up so early he beats the alarm clock he loves it, grandpa makes him coffee every morning. His starting salary is so good that it guarantees my daughter will have a good life. Grandma i hate to bring it up again but you don't have to punish yourself or feel guilty, gram you did nothing wrong. oh gram we rented the notebook and that movie is you an grandpa. because i see the love you both have for one another. We all love you gram, ME,NATALIA,TINA, AMANDA,PJ, SOPHIA, SONNY,ALEX,AND ANGELO YOUR ANGEL WITH AN "O"...AND GRANDPA WHO I KNOW LOVES YOU FOR ETERNITY AND WHO KNOWS YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE FOR HIM. FROM ALL OF US WE MISS YOU!WE MISS YOU!WE MISS YOU!

By Anonymous, at 9:00 PM, November 15, 2005
hello grandma this is your granddaughter Elena. Gram we miss you so much. i just want you to know that Natalia is cutting her first tooth. Grandpa told me that you used to put rum on the babies gums but we had grandpa go to the store to get orajel for the baby. we looked all over the house for some because grandpa said you most likely had some somewhere. but we couldnt find it. Tina is doing okay but misses you very much. Pj is a typical boy but you can see in his eyes that part of him is missing and that is you grandma. Amanda is another story, she is the one i think is hurting the most, but shes doing everything you told her to do in your letter. but it is very difficult for her because she misses you so very very much. Youd be very proud of her she was failing english and she came home with her test and now is passing with a B+. Every morning we feed the ducks I can't believe how you trained the ducks to come for breakfast. grandpa and I feed them bread, and they all surround us. we know in our heart that you are monitoring this web site. so if you read this we wanna thank the anonymous person who wrote that the kids were safe here and that grandma would not leave them in harms way. Grandpa has to now monitor the phone calls. so that none of us hear the nasty messages. Some people must really enjoy tormenting someone who has nothing but love to give to all his grandkids. you were so proud always that you had 32 grandchildren. even though you did not see all of them, you still loved us all the same. you and grandpa always put family first and was always there to help anyone who needed it. grandma i read your letter, and i see the deep love you have for grandpa. And i see in grandpas face the love he has for you. He trys to joke by saying "grandma put me on a diet again" gram hes down to 165. he looks good. he lost his belly. gram there is no need to punish yourself for what happened. And there is no reason to stay away from people who...to quote you gram "beyond eternity." we all argeed that there will not be a holiday we can celebrate without you here, and we will not celebrate christmas because that was your holiday. So we will treat it as a normal day. Gram i am overwhelmed by what you and grandpa has done to this farm, it is amazing. On a happier note Grandpa got Matt a great great job, he gets up so early he beats the alarm clock he loves it, grandpa makes him coffee every morning. His starting salary is so good that it guarantees my daughter will have a good life. Grandma i hate to bring it up again but you don't have to punish yourself or feel guilty, gram you did nothing wrong. oh gram we rented the notebook and that movie is you an grandpa. because i see the love you both have for one another. We all love you gram, ME,NATALIA,TINA, AMANDA,PJ, SOPHIA, SONNY,ALEX,AND ANGELO YOUR ANGEL WITH AN "O"...AND GRANDPA WHO I KNOW LOVES YOU FOR ETERNITY AND WHO KNOWS YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE FOR HIM. FROM ALL OF US WE MISS YOU!WE MISS YOU!WE MISS YOU!

By Anonymous, at 9:02 PM, November 15, 2005
Chris, my sister, I love you dearly, you contacted others but why not me, you have my number call me, you need not protect me any longer, I Love You..your brother Mark....FireTruck, remember

By Anonymous, at 10:40 PM, November 15, 2005
WoW....for some damm reason I can't use my Blogger Name (Uncle Mark) but I can use this Anonymous how ever the hell you spell it....well at least the dam thing works...Uncle mark

By Anonymous, at 10:43 PM, November 15, 2005
I would just like to post a comment for the children.

Your grandma has touched the lives of countless people.

She has been caring for children all her life beginning with her siblings. She cared for us while our mother was sick and was a second mother to us. She taught me to drive, gave me one of my first jobs. I have many fond memories that I keep in my heart. I know this is breaking your heart and someday you will understand. We (her birth family) love her very much and respected her decisions for many, many years. It is hard to let someone you love go and live their life.

She has been taking care of children all her life.

Is it not time for Christina to have hers.

By Anonymous, at 9:30 AM, November 16, 2005
Aunt Suzie,
I read what you wrote. First off who are you to say grandma needs to move on? Your basically saying just give up. Let me ask you this, would you give up on your mom? That is your sister you are talking about, you want to give up on her? That is my mom you are talking about. She raised me from the first day I was born. My mom would do anything for us. That is how much she loves us. My mom gave me everything in the world and that is our mother and grandmother. She has been there since our births so do not talk about my mom like that and those letters mom wrote us were from mom to me, PJ, Elena, Tina, and Natalia.NOT FROM MOM TO YOU AND DO NOT ASSUME WHAT WAS SAID IN THOSE NOTES WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA. Do you know who I am? I am Amanda. Ask mom who I am, she will tell you. You have never met me or have ever seen me so don't act like you know me. I AM VERY ANGRY THAT YOU SAID I SHOULD GIVE UP ON MOM. Who I love so dearly. I am ashamed of you aunt suzie, eventhough I have never met you or aunt jannet, but I have heard of both of you from my mom who is my grandma. GRANDMA, IF YOU ARE READING THIS, I MISS YOU. I AM DOING WHAT YOU ASKED ME TO DO AND I AM TAKING CARE OF GRANDPA AND PJ JUST LIKE YOU SAID. GRAMP WAS IN THE HOSPITAL. HIS ARM SWELLED UP BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT TAKING CARE OF GRANDPA THE RIGHT WAY. IF YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN HIS ARM YOU WOULD GET ANGRY WITH HIM AND YELL AT HIM BECAUSE YOU EVEN TOLD HIM NOT TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL IN STARKE COUNTY. GRANDMA, WHEN YOU GET THIS, PLEASE CONTACT ME. I LOVE YOU FOR ETERNITY AND REMEMBER GRANDMA, WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON YOU. WE LOVE YOU!
FROM YOUR FREE SPIRIT!!!

By Anonymous, at 5:57 PM, November 16, 2005
WHAT KIND OF SICK MAN IS GONNA LET HIS GRANDCHILDREN NOT CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS.PAUL YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE CHRIS FEEL BAD FOR THOSE KIDS SO SHE COMES BACK TO YOU.THOSE OF US WHO KNOW YOU,KNOW WHAT KIND OF SICK GAMES YOU LIKE TO PLAY.GOOD JOB ELENA KEEP FOLLOWING IN YOUR GRANDPA'S FOOTSTEPS AND RUIN THINGS FOR YOUR LITTLE BROTHER AND SISTER.CHRIS DOESN'T WANT TO BE WITH HIM ANYMORE SHE FINALLY GOT UP ENOUGH COURAGE TO LEAVE A HORRIBLE MAN.WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE HER ALONE!

By Anonymous, at 6:33 PM, November 16, 2005
TO CHRISTINA:DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT THE DECISION YOU HAVE MADE TO LEAVE.THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH A WOMAN CAN TAKE.ALL YOUR GRANDCHILDREN WILL UNDERSTAND THAT ONCE THEY GROW UP INTO ADULTS THEMSELVES.THEY ONE DAY WILL BE VERY PROUD OF YOU FOR LEAVING.NOBODY SHOULD EVER STAY IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE NOT HAPPY.THERE IS SO MUCH GREATNESS OUT THERE FOR ALL OF US IN THIS WORLD.WE CAN NOT BE AFRAID TO GO FOR IT.YOU ARE TEACHING ALL OF YOUR GRANDCHILDREN A GREAT LESSON ABOUT LIFE AND COURAGE.

By Anonymous, at 6:52 PM, November 16, 2005
CHIS WE LOVE YOU AND STAND BY YOU. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FALL FOR THE TRICKS. BE STRONG. WE ARE WITH YOU.

By Anonymous, at 7:42 PM, November 16, 2005
I don't understand, someone explain to me what we are in this website for, is it to get back at one another over the years, or is it about Christina Nowakowski? There is lot of Hate in this website. This "Baby Sister" writes of her sister and explains her feelings, now she a target because of what she wrote. Look at yourselves in the mirror, you can't have what you all had, get up and smell the coffee, Christina Nowakowski left the household for a reason, why? Because of you!! Put the blame where it counts...

By Anonymous, at 8:26 PM, November 16, 2005
OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOUR FRIEND UNCLE MARK.

By Anonymous, at 10:17 PM, November 16, 2005
damn,head for hills christina. you know what im sayin.

By Anonymous, at 1:00 AM, November 17, 2005
from
RED DOOR
bye
CHRIS
LOVE
for
ETERNITY
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER.
SEARS

By Anonymous, at 10:26 AM, November 17, 2005
wow, I came across this sight and we'll there is alot of head spinning thoughts.

By Anonymous, at 12:04 PM, November 17, 2005
I have created a web site for family .... nowakowskifam.blogspot.com

By Anonymous, at 12:18 PM, November 17, 2005
Obviously, this is one big difuctional family.

Why when Frank and Uncle Mark say that when they questioned the authorities and the authorities say she is safe and alive why don't any of you believe it.

Oh I am the first born daughter of MY MOTHER

For years I longed to have a relationship with my mother but of no success and she tried to have a relationship with me as well as MY BROTHER.

I want to share a card that I had recieved 28yrs ago from MY MOTHER

It reads:

Happy Birthday
To Someone
I Seldom See

We seldom see each other
The way we used to do,
But there's no doubt about it--
I often think of you...

And since today is special
I sent this note to say
How much I wish you happiness
Today and every day.

Have a Wonderful Birthday!

Love Your Mother

This is what she personally wrote:

Dear Gina;

This card, I hope will find you well and in good hands. Honey, it's
been a very long time since we've seen each other but remember, by no fault of mine. I wrote to you last year but I don't know if you ever recieved my card. I do hope you get this one, and I want you to remember, if at any time you would need me, I'll always be here. Someday you may want to know just who your real mother is, just call me. There is so much to say, but on paper it does'nt do what I want it to. Someday honey, I'll be there when you need me. I'll always love you dearly.

Love Mom Chris

phone# 312-344-6610

Well I tried to call and I needed her many of times and at no sucess.
When I would call she would whisper "I can't talk now Paul is here" So to those who said they were abused, I believe you. Sometimes when people are in disfunctional relationships they cannot see it until they get out like those of you who have. And it does affect you the rest of your life and its a daily struggle to just try to be normal.
The first time I met MY MOTHER was the day after I recieved My Birthday card

By Anonymous, at 5:58 PM, November 17, 2005
to continue with this, the second time I saw her is when she attempted to leave Paul,but was found and dragged back to the severe disfunction . He had a wife, MY MOTHER was never his wife , he made her his concubine. Yes the real Mrs. Esparza was Dorothy, MY MOTHER only took on the name for her three daughters sake.
I guess all my hopes and dreams of ever having a relationship with MY MOTHER are gone now that she has to be in hiding.But I'd rather it this way then the abuse that she never deserved.

Amanda(free spirit) you keep grandma's thoughts with you, keep them in your heart and mind, if she is the person I feel she is she loves you so much just as she told me in my card how she loved me. No one can take the bond you and grandma had and will always have until eternity no one can take that from you, no one.

MY MOTHER has 4 granddaughters she has never even met, its ashame. I was just planning to go visit MY MOTHER with my girls when I found out she disappeared but I figured she'd appear again she has in my past appeared and disappeared 3 different times so this did'nt seem out of the ordinary.

I will understand and never turn on MY MOTHER if she has to stay away for her safety, thats more important to me than anything else

MOM, you will always be in my heart and mind and soul, may you find happiness were ever you go.
LOVE ALWAYS AND FOREVER CGAMCG

By Anonymous, at 6:16 PM, November 17, 2005
This will be my one and only comment on this blog.
I'm very close to the family. The only people who know the truth are Paul and the grandkids. Her reasons for leaving had nothing to do with Paul or the grandkids. The reasons are known only to Chris and Paul.
Those who know Chris and Paul know the love they have for each other for over 40 years. I personally have seen them together and how they treat each other, and Paul treats Chris with love. If he knew of anyone trying to hurt or harm her in anyway it would anger him to no end. So you all played right into the hands of the political machine in Proviso Township where Chris and Paul were one of the strongest political activists in the township. They played hardball to win or lose.
The creator of this blog has one intention and that's to destroy Chris and Paul. No one has made any mention of the 90 million dollar lawsuit that Chris and Paul filed when running for committeman. So the family members on both sides should be ashamed of each other, when you're Paul bashing it only hurts Chris more than you could imagine. If you continue with your Paul and Chris bashing you play right in the hands of the political hypocrites, Are any of you aware of the ongoing election in Proviso Township for comitteman, state rep, county board comissioners, school trustees, village trustees? They're so worried, these political hypocrites, of Paul and Chris.
I personally drove out there to see Paul and how he's holding up. He's doing good, his only goal is to comply with the wishes in Chris's letter. I only have very slight knowledge of the letter he only read 1 paragraph to me out of 8 pages.
So Chris, though this will probably not be posted for long on the Paul and Chris bashing sites I want to say hang tight Little Sister, you'll always be close in our hearts. I know you love Paul and we all love you. Little Sister, I will not give the Chris and Paul bashers the satisfaction of knowing who I am.
Again with ALL our LOVE, hang tight little sister and get better. Be strong Little Sister, you are a strong person.
For all of us from the west to the suburbs are praying for you to be strong.
Signed,
Your friends from the west to the suburban area
Hang tight little sister.

By Anonymous, at 10:02 AM, November 18, 2005
THIS IS ALL PAULS DOING. DO NOT BLAME ANYONE ELSE. YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW. SELFISHNESS AND INVOLVING EVERYONE HAS COME FULL CIRCLE. SORRY VERY CLOSE FRIEND TO THE FAMILY BUT YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING.

By Anonymous, at 12:18 PM, November 18, 2005
HEY VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF THE FAMILY...BIG BROTHER...WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.IF YOU WANT TO READ ABOUT PAUL AND POLITICS GO TO THE TOP LEFT CORNER ON THE SCREEN WHERE IT SAYS BLOGGER.CLICK ON THAT,ENTER IN PAUL ESPARZA.THERE YOU WILL FIND MORE OF A REASON FOR WHY PAUL HAS BEEN HIDING IN INDIANA SINCE HE RAN FOR COMITTEEMAN ABOUT 3-4 YEARS AGO.WHAT YOU ARE SAYING DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE.WHO IN THE WORLD AT 60 SOMETHING YEARS OLD WOULD CHOOSE TO LEAVE HER HOME,FAMILY AND SOMETHING LIKE A HUSBAND UNLESS THINGS WERE VERY BAD AND THEY HAD NO OTHER CHOICE.THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS.THIS HAS TO DO WITH A VERY STRONG WOMAN FINALLY HAVING THE COURAGE TO STICK UP FOR HERSELF AND LEAVE WITH HOPES TO MAKE A BETTER LIFE FOR HERSELF BEFORE IT REALLY IS TO LATE.WE DON'T ALL LIVE FOREVER YOU KNOW.THERE IS NO REASON FOR SOMEONE TO LIVE IN MISERY.FINALLY CHRIS PULLED TOGETHER THE STRENGH AND COURAGE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AND SHE DECIDED TO GET OUT.AND BY THE WAY YOU CAN PAT YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR THE GREAT JOB YOU DID WITH THE PAUL BASHING YOURSELF.YOU JUST CONFIRMED THAT CHRIS HAD TO LEAVE BEHIND PAUL'S BACK (PROBABLY BECAUSE SHE WAS SCARED...DUH!) LEAVING A LETTER BEHIND TO EXPLAIN WHY SHE LEFT.IF HE WAS SO GREAT AND LOVING WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD SHE LEAVE HIM.IF HE'S SUCH A GREAT MAN WHY DOES PRETTY MUCH HIS WHOLE FAMILY DISLIKE HIM SO MUCH?WHY DID HIS 1ST WIFE AND CHRIS BOTH LEAVE HIM?I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT POLITICS BUT I SURE THE HECK WOULDN'T PLACE MY VOTE FOR THAT MAN.NO WONDER HE LOST THE ELECTION WHEN HE RAN.

By Anonymous, at 4:43 PM, November 18, 2005
TO VERY CLOSE FRIEND OF THE FAMILY. HOW FAR ARE YOU GOING TO CRAWL UP PAULS ASS? WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT POLITICS! THIS WAS ABOUT WHETHER CHRIS WAS DEAD OR ALIVE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW, WHEN IS PAUL GOING TO GET OVER HIMSELF?

By Anonymous, at 5:24 PM, November 18, 2005
dear anonymous:

Find something more creative to do with your time, rather than throw digs at Chris's friends who obviously love her very much. You say this isn't anout politics, then why throw that last scentence in your post? Obviously you have your nose up someone's ass...just have to find out who!

By Anonymous, at 7:22 PM, November 18, 2005
I got a call from a friend of mine, that gave me this website and said that I would be shocked at the things they are saying about the Esparza family. I've known the Esparza family since I was a police officer in Maywood, and I know one thing...that Chris and Paul would NEVER turn their back on their children no matter what they did. I happen to know this first hand. One of Pauls children took a truck without permission, that did not belong to the Esparza family, and drove around melrose park and maywood at a very young age. When he was caught and Mr. Esparza was called, he immediately came down to the station to resolve the problem. Since everyone in the community knew Chris and Paul, we extended the courtesy not to pursue the matter, since the owner of the vehicle was a close friend of the Esparza family. So Mr. Esparza made restitution and filled the gas tank and made the nessesary repairs. The humor in this story is that the truck belonged to the chief of police! So I do not believe all the negativity from the Esparza family. Chris and Paul always did their best to protect their family from political exposure. This I know for a fact, because anytime any of the kids were in trouble with the police, the first thing out of their mouth was "do you know my dad?" or "do you know Chris Esparza?" And of course we knew them, at one time I even worked for paul and Chris in a bad snow storm! All I can say is that I know these kids don't mean what they are saying, they are just angry at the moment at their father. If I know Paul, he'd help them if they were in trouble. If you're reading this Paul or do you want me to call you Pauly ( just a little humor) I hope everything works out for you and Chris. We know, that everything is okay with her, we have ways of finding that out. by the way...when are you gonna invite me up there to fish and see your farm? I hope soon! and I hope Chris gets better. And Remember your family are all still Maywoodians no matter where they move to.

Your Friend,
Retired

By Anonymous, at 8:27 PM, November 18, 2005
Oh boy, now look at this statement, "we know she is alright and have ways of finding these things out." Sure hope that the loyality of a true policeman keep his word on the oath he took about privacy and not to pass on information, lets see how far this one goes...

By Anonymous, at 9:55 PM, November 18, 2005
Yeah I can also remember those "friendly" police officers in Maywood that would so graciously turn their heads when there were calls in about the abuse. You call that a friend??? That was also what enabled him to continue the abuse for so many years! EVERYONE knew he had connections in Maywood!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for confirming that also "Friend".
Chris you know why you left and don't you let these people get to you that are trying to help that master manipulator make you feel guilty or responsible for his actions. Stay strong and know that your kids “all of them” love you. You are showing them how to be courageous and that it’s never too late to get out of a bad situation.
Don’t go back to him! Take your time and when YOU are ready your kids will be waiting with open arms as I’m sure you have been for them many times.
I am also a close friend of the family and seen this man change from Dr. Jeckle to Mr. Hyde and there was not a thing anyone could do. Don’t speak for the Esparza children they are able to speak for themselves and I am sure they would not want your help now as it is TOO LATE! Where were you Mr. Officer when they really needed you???
Corruption at its best…

By Anonymous, at 10:27 PM, November 18, 2005
what about this "I hope Chris gets better". What the hell is that supposed to mean?

By Anonymous, at 10:28 PM, November 18, 2005
Oh that is just because this "friendly" Neighborhood policeman KNOWS what “Pauly” is capable of… Sounds to me like he is contradicting himself a bit.

By Anonymous, at 10:33 PM, November 18, 2005
For everyones information, Paul went to court today at 9am with his attorney. Township Committeeman and Recorder of Deeds "Gene Moore" had his attorney there as well, also there was David Sharps and Askia Abdullahs attorneys, Abdullah is the press secretary for Gene Moore. These 3 men are being sued by Paul Esparza. I got a copy of the lawsuit, and they are being sued for 30million a piece. Moores attorney asked for a continuance, because Chris Esparza is missing and they are investigating it. Pauls attorney argued that Chris was found and is doing well. (it is upsured for them to try and get a continuance when a family member needs help.) So their motion was denied. Looks like Moore, Sharp, and Abdullah are going to trial!

By Anonymous, at 10:49 PM, November 18, 2005
WHO GIVES A RATS ASS about that! We are only concerned with Chris and her safety.
Paul Esparza is known for sueing EVERYONE!!! Whoopty F***in Doo!!!
Stop trying to turn this into a Pitty Party for Paul.
If you think protecting him is gonna get you something you have a rude awakening coming to you! HAHAHA

By Anonymous, at 10:57 PM, November 18, 2005
And also this bullshit "I HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR YOU AND CHRIS". Everything will work out if he leaves her the hell alone.

By Anonymous, at 11:20 PM, November 18, 2005
I heard through the grape vine that another lawsuit is being filed. I don't know who, but i'd hate to be in their shoes! They got Esparza PISSED OFF!! (Those that are attacking his family) By the way tune in to Arnie Bryants radio show 1530am where he will be masurbating on the Esparza saga! He is the same one who had to apologize to Esparza for invasion of privacy, he works for the clerk of the circut court Dorthy Brown. His wife works for David Orr "Cook County Board of Elections" she uses her maiden name to disguise she is married to Arnie Bryant. This is the same guy who lost his election to Chris and Paul.
Arnie Bryant are you still president of the NAACP? Something stinks here Arnie Bryant!HMMMM wonder what role Carl Nyberg plays with you Arnie Bryant?

By Anonymous, at 11:32 PM, November 18, 2005
The grapevine is getting larger as we speak. Come to understand that aka Christina Nowakowski aka Esparza has filed for "protective custody" now this means that what ever is held in courts, anything pending for lawsuit, probates etc.. means "nobody wins" isn't that a bitch. And this information was obtained by......ooooops. privacy act of 1974.

By Anonymous, at 5:24 PM, November 19, 2005
and the grapevine smells like dookie......what a crock.....get on with your lives people...do you not have anything better to do? A dam shame, and quite sad to say the least.

By Anonymous, at 8:11 PM, November 19, 2005
HEY GIVE IT UP.WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM?THIS LOG WAS CREATED FOR CHRIS.ANY INFO REGARDING HER AND HER WHERE ABOUTS IS HELPFUL FOR HER FAMILY TO KNOW.NOBODY'S FORCING ANYBODY TO GET ON THIS WEBSITE AND READ IT OR POST COMMENTS(FOR THE MOST PART).IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU READ YOU GIVE IT UP AND STAY THE HECK OFF THIS LOG.IDIOT.

By Anonymous, at 5:54 PM, November 20, 2005
This all smells just like "Shit." you can paint a picture the you want it to be, but in reality, it never will be. I believe this kids when they wrote this stuff about Pauly or whom ever the hell he is...any bets on a lie detector test? the results would read 99% Fail, 1% uncertain. It's going to be the sadest Thanksgiving and Christmas yet, what can one be thankful for? Just a note on the bright side, your true friend(s) sure have a laugh on the matter, it's unbelievable on what one says about one another, have a coffee and some donuts, why don't you. Ha..Ha...

By Anonymous, at 9:47 PM, November 22, 2005
THIS MESSAGE IS TO THE HAND BURNER, HEAD SHAVING, WIFE AND WOMEN BEATER,CHILD ABUSER,MAY YOU BURN IN HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
PAUL

By Anonymous, at 11:07 PM, November 22, 2005
ANOTHER MESSAGE TO THE ABUSER;
HOW ARE THE EXTENTION CORDS THESE DAYS????????????????????????

SO WHY DID YOU BRING CHILDREN INTO THIS WORLD PAUL ????????????????

TO ABUSE THEM AND THERE MOTHERS AND TORCHER THE AND SHOOT AT THEM WITH YOUR GUNS.

WHY DID YOU CHAIN PEOPLE TO THE BATHROOM SINK AND OPEN THE WINDOW AND LET THEM FREEZE AND NOT FEED HER AND BEAT THE ONE UNTIL YOU BEAT HER THROUGH THE DRYWALL.

ANSWER PAUL.

YOUR A NOBODY YOU PIECE OF SHIT

By Anonymous, at 8:04 AM, November 23, 2005
A MESSAGE TO THE CRACK HEAD;

MAY YOU GET A BAD ROCK! HAHAHAHAHA

By Anonymous, at 8:34 AM, November 23, 2005
Do you honestly think a crack head
wrote that? You puppet!!!

Anyone go to 101 south First Ave
in Maywood, Ill., go to the top floor, the office with the glass windows, on the right wall are bullet holes from Paul shooting at Chris. Be a real man Paul, explain this!!

By Anonymous, at 9:46 AM, November 23, 2005
Care to comment on the above Paul?

By Anonymous, at 10:05 AM, November 23, 2005
Gram,
We are glad to hear that you are safe. We all miss you very much. Please call us, we took the block off the phone because in your letter you said that you couldn't get through because of it. PJ got his mid-term grades and you would be very proud of him he did very well and had no write ups. He wishes you were here so he could hug you and say that he is sorry for not hugging you. I am doing very good in english(A-). I miss you gram!
Chris, I wish I could just hold you in my arms and hug you and tell you how sorry I am. There is only one thing I want to do and you know what that is. Miss you.

Gram, I miss you and I love you.

By Anonymous, at 10:29 AM, November 24, 2005
ALL THE ABOVE IS TRUE. I THANK THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS. YOU MUST OF CARED BUT COULD NOT HELP.YOU KNOW TO MUCH DETAIL. ITS HIS TURN TO TAKE A BEATING NOW. HOW DOES IT FEEL PAUL!!!!!! BY ANNONYMOUS

By Anonymous, at 11:37 AM, November 24, 2005
You are a really SICK person. I believe what we are reading is only a very small portion of what went on in that house. I hope and pray in my heart that someday somehow you will get ALL THAT YOU DESERVE. People treat animals better than you treated Dorothy, Chris and all of those children. May God remember this.

By Anonymous, at 12:24 PM, November 25, 2005
what i want to know, is why after all these years do they decided to write this on the internet? Who's is getting paid what? I find it very ammusing that when some of these people moved out and went on with their lives, there were times they had nothing to eat, if they were so petrified, why would they still show up on thier Father's door step for help. Or that if they were so scared of him, why would they still leave their young children with him for weeks on end so they could "get they're lives together?" wtf was that about! you all were so scared ...pfffft!

By Anonymous, at 2:10 PM, November 25, 2005
It is all true, the abuse. Anyone
have the balls for a lie detector
test? What about copies of police reports for the abuse going back to 153 North Laurel, Chicago Il.
The truth hurts.

By Anonymous, at 3:28 PM, November 25, 2005
Tammy knock it OFF! You are only
hurting mom

By Anonymous, at 3:35 PM, November 25, 2005
These kids know how political their father is, i also believe that there is someone behind this whole thing.

By Anonymous, at 3:47 PM, November 25, 2005
We have a judicial system in place within our country; Can we have Paul (Pauly) Esparza arrested for all ths family abuse and send him away to prision? Will all family members come forward and say what they have wittnessed through out the years along with a polygraph tests? Carl, what do you think, lets look into this matter and get an answer.

By Anonymous, at 4:34 PM, November 25, 2005
I AM A FAMILY MEMBER OF THE ESPARZA FAMILY.I AM PREPARED TO TAKE A POLYGRAGH TEST.ONCE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE PROPER AUTHURITIES ARE INVOLVED I WILL REVEAL MYSELF IN HOPES THAT THIS MAN WILL HAVE TO FACE UP TO THE PROPER PUNISHMENT FOR ALL HIS CRIMES.

By Anonymous, at 9:50 PM, November 25, 2005
Maybe what it took for all this abuse to come out is the great internet information age. Also, the courage of a woman determined to finally have the life she deserves. These kids have said what they have said for the world to see because they wanted ALL to know the horror they have lived. God bless them for having the courage to do this for the love of their mother and the want to protect her from any more harm. There is more, much, much more, I am sure.

By Anonymous, at 11:43 PM, November 25, 2005
IT SHOULD WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE PAUL SENT TO JAIL AND BE "MESSED UP" BY A MAN. I WONDER IF HE WOULD BE A MAN OR A MOUSE. I HEARD THAT IN PRISONS THE MALES DO NOT TAKE TOO WELL TO WOMAN AND CHILD ABUSERS. I SAY WE SHOULD START TALKING TO SOME REAL POLICE OFFICERS.

By Anonymous, at 12:19 AM, November 26, 2005
The lies that Paul told to the kids about being called "BASTARDS".
There has only been ONE BASTARD and that is YOU!!!

By Anonymous, at 4:23 PM, November 26, 2005
I worded the comment above incorrently. It should read "PAUL YOU ARE THE ONLY BASTARD"!!!

By Anonymous, at 4:46 PM, November 26, 2005
I posted a comment of Thursday regarding FIRST_HAND knowledge of the abuse that Chris, Dorothy and the numerous children and grandchildren have suffered over 40 years. My comments were erased, why???? Could it be that the police dept. that was supposed to protect the innocent are still protecting PAUL the abuser??? This is definitely the reason so many of this family are anonymous when writing. Paul knows who they are though! Why do you keep referring to Chris as Paul's wife? They were never married. He was married to Dorothy, and Dorothy only. He forcibly kept Chris as nothing more than a maid, childcare, cook and whore. Just as he did with Dorothy. And if you kids were raised in such a LOVING, responsible atmosphere, why then are so many of you fighting so bitterly? Why the name calling? I pray that before it is too late, you get counselling for yourselves, it was never your fault, it was not Chris's fault, or Dorothy's fault. The only person at fault here is PAUL. Who single handedly ruined the lives of so many people to include innocent children.
Paul was such a big man to beat women and children. Did it make you feel big Paul? A REAL MAN!! I would pray that you make it to jail and meet some REAL MEN!! The men, despite thier problems, they will protect the women and children.. Let's see you up against a real man, Paul. You loser. They would crush you like you did the frail 100 pound women you beat so badly. How did it feel to punch a 100 pound women, too tiny to defend herself? How did it feel to chain them up? Freeze them for days? Shave their heads? starve them? shoot at them? All with the children watching...So that you could scare the kids into silence.. At what age did you start beating the kids?
Yeah Paul, we all know the true and whole story.. So do the police and political figures, who also are too scared to do anything. Chris FINALLY had the courage and that burns your ass. She has more courage than the entire police dept.
It burns you doesnt it Paul..Chris won and you can deal with it.

By Anonymous, at 12:29 PM, November 27, 2005
Has anyone even looked at any of the medical bills of this family from the past 40 years. How many broken bones and noses and severe bruises were found? As far as a lie detector test, are the police going to protect us if we come out and tell the truth? They havent so far.. Paul seems to be the only person being protected.
He should have been in jail 40 years ago. As best as I can remember, we do live in the United States don't we?
Arent abusers and child flashers and molesters locked up and throw away the key? How could this police and political system NOT lock this psycho up? How could soooo many people make up the same matching lies?
Your family came from the same nut(so to speak) you should be backing each other up with a mutual goal, to see Paul in jail.. Even other countries jail people for such atrocities toward women and children..

By Anonymous, at 12:40 PM, November 27, 2005
Dearest Paul,
How sorry I feel for you...NOT!!!!!
In your nutty world trying to find the one that got away, did you ever expect that the world would be reading about such abuse in your household? You just thought we would give up Chris..Not a chance. I would rather live my life without her and know she is safe and happy somewhere, than be able to see her and know that at 62 years old she is still being abused by you!
Chaps your ass doesnt it Paul? Chris won, you forever will be the loser, especially now that the WORLD knows what a women beating child beating S.O.B. you are..
Big man arent you, Paul? What a big man it takes to beat the living crap out of a 100 pound 5 ft. tall women?
And your children.
Also for the world to know.
Paul was married to Dorothy, lived with Chris (not married) Each woman had children by him as they were all living in the same home. The childcare was shared, but Chris was good to us all, Dorothy hated and resented Chris's kids by Paul. Chris was married before she was with Paul and had 2 children. She left her 2 little babies with their father to protect them from the abuse of Paul.
Chris suffered many severe beatings trying to see and/or contact her other kids.. That man kept her from those babies that needed her. Out of jealousy... How can a grown man be so homicidally jealous of 2 little kids? Hopefully, they know how lucky they are not to have lived in this horrifying situation.
Again, Paul succeeded in ruining more lives. This is your day Paul, for the world to see. What a coward your are. Why havent you publically addressed these allegations? Has the police dept. contacted you yet? Have any of you children and wives(so to speak) thought about suing him for the past abuse if the statute of limitations has run out?
Why continue to let this man live openly, make it as difficult on him as possible. Maybe, just maybe that fake heartattack will become real and you all can live in peace..
Your grave stone.
PAUL ESPARZA
ABUSIVE HUSBAND AND BOYFRIEND
ABUSIVE FATHER AND GRANDFATHER
LIVED FAR TOO LONG
AND RUINED TOO MANY LIVES.
GOOD RIDDENCE
WE WON
YOU LOST!!!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 1:03 PM, November 27, 2005
Chris,
We are happy you are happy..
This is the most important lesson you have ever taught us.. Be strong.
I am so proud of you. This is the proudest I have ever been that you are my mom.. Please!!!!!!!! Do not let anyone make you feel guilty. You have nothing to be guilty about. You lived your life for us. You stayed in such an unbearable situation to take care of us. Please mom, please do not let anything bring you back until Paul is dead and you have nothing to fear.. We are all afraid of what he will do to you if you come back. We love you, we understand. Live ""YOUR LIFE FOR YOU"""finally. Again, remember, you just taught us the most important lesson..

By Anonymous, at 1:12 PM, November 27, 2005
Whoever wrote that Dorothy hated the kids Chris had with Paul YOU
ARE WRONG!!!!!! Mom Dorothy AND Mom
Chris loved us ALL. Do you hear me!!!!They love us ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am thier daughter DAWN. Do not
say ANYTHING more about my moms!!!

By Anonymous, at 2:33 PM, November 27, 2005
Another thing.....I will find out
who said that about mom Dorothy and I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!!!!!
This is Dawn!!!!

By Anonymous, at 2:40 PM, November 27, 2005
Dawn,
Sorry to hurt you, but you need to see the truth especially as an adult.. I never said your mom hated Chris's kids, I said she was jealous of them and did not treat them as she did her own.. That is the truth. I do not blame her, I may be the same way in that same situation, I dont know. But the whole living situation was an extremely unheathly living environment for all....Look at the comments on here from the family, does that sound loving and healthy???

By Anonymous, at 2:47 PM, November 27, 2005
""I'll kick your ass"" Dawn, have you reverted to Pauls way of handling things?????????

By Anonymous, at 2:49 PM, November 27, 2005
Maybe I did say hate, I didnt mean that in its entirety, but Dorothy was not good to Chris's kids. Chris treated the kids equal, not in the usual his mine and ours thing.

By Anonymous, at 2:53 PM, November 27, 2005
To retired,
How funny your story regarding the chiefs stolen truck.. Was it just as funny to walk away from a family being so terribly abused? The ""DO YOU KNOW WHO MY FAMILY IS?""Also equally as funny isnt it? I'll bet that came from Mr. Paul Esparza? Is that why he was never charged and prosecuted for such abuse? You laugh, I have never seen such stupidity in my life. For a person who took an oath to serve and protect, you Mr. Retired (retarded?) you were knowingly protecting the wrong one.. What about the woman and children? Did you protect them Mr. Retired? You have alot to answer for and those in Melrose Park police as well should be prosecuted for their lack of serving and protecting. Do you think we dont know about the corruption in the boys club?(Melrose police) Please, it would have been better you keep your mouth shut, than own up to knowing them. Funny, isnt it? Mr. Cover-up?

By Anonymous, at 3:08 PM, November 27, 2005
Uncle Mark,
Dear Uncle Mark,
And exactly where were you during all this abuse? You knew full well what YOUR SISTER was suffering. her and her children. What did you do to protect them? You are just a pissy pants coward. Too afraid of Paul to do anything. So, you should also stay out, and stay away. The time to help and speak was 40 years ago. I'm sorry Uncle Mark, Where were you? Too chicken shit to do anything? Oh yeah!!

By Anonymous, at 3:14 PM, November 27, 2005
I have not written on this blog for a long time but have sat back and read all that has been said...
I can't let you continue talking about our mothers and our lives when you have NO CLUE what you are talking about.
You better f***en believe it. When we find out who wrote that you will regret it.
If there is one thing we all have taken away from this situation it is to stand up for ourselves and not sit by while someone who KNOWS ONLY WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD OR READ HERE is "AGAIN ABUSING OUR MOTHERS" verbally by saying what you did...Lets be really clear here there are TEN children born to Paul, Dorothy, and Chris. The ten of us love each other dearly, we may argue amongst each other as every FAMILY does but there is one thing that will make our mothers as well as our father the proudest…
That is that when we are in need we will be there for each other and do not turn the other cheek.
We were fortunate enough to be raised by TWO wonderful, beautiful, caring, brave, selfless, and courageous women who LOVED each and every one of us and SUFFERED GREATLY for each and every one of us. Don’t you dare call our mother a whore!!!!!! You don’t know the feeling of being abused the way both my mom Dorothy and my mom Chris felt. They had no choice but to endure the pain and hope for a better tomorrow…
It is people like you that should be ashamed of yourselves in that if you knew what was happening YOU DID NOTHING!!!!!
Our mothers both worked their fingers to the bones to take care of us while our father PLAYED POLITICIAN and spent every dime on his campaigning. Our mom Dorothy worked day in and day out in a factory to put food on the table and clothes on our backs. So don’t you dare say she treated any of us differently she LOVES us all just as our mom Chris does and I’m sure she is cringing right now with these horrible allegations from a nobody who knows nothing.
All I can say is YOU CAN ONLY WISH TO HAVE ONE MOTHER AS GOOD AS THE TWO WE HAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lisa Renee

By Anonymous, at 3:14 PM, November 27, 2005
WAy TO GO LISA!!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 3:18 PM, November 27, 2005
Please do not take jabs at Uncle Mark. We have many Auns and Uncles
don't single one out . Please
don't do that.

By Anonymous, at 3:20 PM, November 27, 2005
you ALL opened this door, and now you have people calling our mom a whore...real nice. True colors are coming out as bold as can be.

By Anonymous, at 3:32 PM, November 27, 2005
That can be any "coo coo clock" taking jabs at Uncle Mark! They are obviously not a member of OUR family!

By Anonymous, at 3:33 PM, November 27, 2005
I am an Esparza child. To the comment above, " Dorothy hated and resented Chris's kids by Paul"
You are NOT one of the 10. My brothers and sisters may argue with each other but when an outsider takes jabs at one of OUR
mothers WE BAND TOGETHER!!!Leave
our moms alone. You don't know
us. Identify yourself and you will
see 10 Esparza kids ready to kick ASS!!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 3:34 PM, November 27, 2005
Whoever wrote that shit about my Grandma Dort resenting my Grandma Chris's kids BETTER STAY THERE ASS OFF THIS SITE OTHERWISE GET IN TOUCH WITH ME AND PREPARE YOURSELF FOR AN ASS WHOPPIN'.Don't you dare single either of my grandmothers out.BOTH did what they could get away with for all their children and grandchildren.They never took stuff out on each others children.ALL lived in the same hell hole.When one kid got in trouble ALL kids got the blame.When one kid got beat ALL kids had to watch.Neither of my Grandmothers would ever wish any harm on any child whether it be their's or not.It may be hard for some people to understand but both my Grandmothers have very much respect and love qqfor each other and love each others kids.The whole situation was just so twisted though.I feel sorry for both my Grandmothers,all my Grandpa's children and grandchildren.My Grandfather just loves to make everybody hate each other when he wants and love each other when he says it's okay.His favorite words are "YOU'RE DISOWNED".All of us have been disowned by him at one time or another.WELL GUESS WHAT ASSHOLE YOU DON'T OWN ANY OF US ANYMORE.None of us are longing for our father's or grandfather's love anymore.WE FINALLY DISOWN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 3:37 PM, November 27, 2005
WHAT ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF ASSHOLE?WHY DON'T YOU SAY WHO YOU ARE?

By Anonymous, at 3:40 PM, November 27, 2005
WHAT'S EVERYONE SO AFRAID OF?WHY DON'T YOU SIGN YOUR NAME OFF ON YOUR COMMENTS?

By Anonymous, at 3:42 PM, November 27, 2005
You can tell you are all Esparza kids, just by the way you speak and handle yourself.. Every other word is an insult and an ""I'll kick your ass""
At what age do you finally grow up and take responsibility for your actions?
Your father still hasnt...

By Anonymous, at 3:43 PM, November 27, 2005
Sometimes as an adult you need you ass kicked.That's life honey.Who are you kidding.

By Anonymous, at 3:45 PM, November 27, 2005
THAT'S RIGHT!IF YOU CAN'T TAKE THE BEAT DOWN DON'T PUT YOUR SMACK DOWN!

By Anonymous, at 3:46 PM, November 27, 2005
To Lisa Renee,
I do know you and your family. I do know of every aspect of abuse you and your family members suffered.. I was NOT calling Chris a whore.. I said that was how Paul treated her.. I too love Chris, very dearly. I would have given anything to get her out safely. Do you remember any of the times she tried to leave, what happened? Do you happen to remember when she tried to contact her other kids(Frank and Gina)
to make sure they were okay and happy, do you remember what Paul did to her? He is a terrible person and has inflicted so much pain on 3 generations of people. what a sad shame it has been allowed to continue. I never meant to hurt you in any way. I hope you and your family can move on and get help so as not to pass this sickness on to future generations of little Pauls..

By Anonymous, at 3:52 PM, November 27, 2005
Well you know who we are why don't you say who are???
Are you Scared? Chicken?
You better believe we are Esparza kids and we will stand up for our mothers, our sisters and brothers. You should be scared...
We Esparza kids all know that we as brothers and sisters have every right to say what we will about our family but don't you dare speak about our family when you are AN OUTSIDER! We will have to revert back to what we all know o'so well. You would not be the first idiot to get your ass kicked by one of us for talking about our family!
P.S.
To MY MOTHERS Dorothy and Chris, ALL my sisters ,nieces ,nephews, and ALL my bothers I just want you to know that NO MATTER WHAT I LOVE YOU AND WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU!!!
There is NOTHING anyone can say or do to change that!

By Anonymous, at 3:55 PM, November 27, 2005
To the comment above a few rows, You did say hate, I am Chris's
biological child. I am one of the
10. I should know how I was treated
by mom Dorothy, she did not mistreat us. I am an Adult, it's been a long time since I had a fist fight, identify yourself, will you do that? Chicken! Don't mess with my moms. You called my mom a whore and my other mom hateful. I WILL kick ASS if need be. Don't you mess with MY MOMS!!!

By Anonymous, at 4:04 PM, November 27, 2005
Anonymous,
Well if you are only trying to speak of the abuse our father put ALL of us through why do you feel the need to speak of our mothers in such a way?
They DO NOT deserve any of this. My mothers have both endured enough abuse leave them both alone! Believe me we don't need your opinion or help now! We are all capable of taking care of ourselves and will do so without your help as we have for SO MANY YEARS!!! We also know YOU ARE NOT ONE of the Esparza children because WE WOULD NEVER SPEAK OF OUR MOTHERS in that way! WE LOVE THEM BOTH TO ETERNITY AND BACK AGAIN!
So thanks but no thanks for your concern (too late)we are fine! Leave us all alone!!!!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 4:06 PM, November 27, 2005
If you think long and hard, you will know. I am not afraid of any of you. The stupid and childishness that comes from your mouths is pathetic..
But to end this short and sweet. I do think it is hopeless for you and your kids and generations after you, you have too much of Paul in all of you.. He was your primary example, and by what comes from your own mouths, it shows that you did not take after those loving and compassionate woman.
If I didnt know your background, I would be disgusted, I just blow it off to the way in which you were raised.. It does come a time in life in which you act like ladies. At what age is that? At what age do you quit threatening people? At what age do you take some responsibility in your lives. If you are like your father, never. If you want to be different, do it before its too late..
Grow up and learn you get more with honey than filth

By Anonymous, at 4:06 PM, November 27, 2005
One last thing Lisa Renee,
If you had not come off so ignorant and filthy and threatening, I would have met with you face to face so that maybe we could have had some type of a relationship. I love my family very much, But I will never take that chance with my kids.. it is a shame, because life has so much more out there to experience..
I truly do wish you and your family the best in life, and that you guys will have peace at some point in your life..(like Chris now has)

By Anonymous, at 4:24 PM, November 27, 2005
YOU started the fighting when YOU
INSULTED our moms. Us Esparza kids,
and grandchildren will defend OUR MOMS and Grandma's. So kiss the booty "PUTA"

By Anonymous, at 4:35 PM, November 27, 2005
Well all I have to say to you is "there is NO LOVE lost" in not meeting you since you have nothing but bad things to say about my mothers(and I know that you know I realize who you are but I won't call you out cause I'm better than that). You have NO right to comment on our lives you were never there! As far as I'm concerned you were and are just a figure of my imagination :)
We may have had a hard life but at least I can say I KNOW MY MOTHERS, MY SISTERS, and MY BROTHERS AND MY FATHER! Can you?
Also just to clarify something our mothers taught us to be strong and stand together and we may have a lot of our father in us but we also have so much more of our mothers in us you can't even imagine how good that feels :)
Also stop trying to befriend my sister she doesn't need you! She has plenty of sisters and brothers! We will get through this together without any of you OUTSIDERS!!!!!!!!

By Anonymous, at 5:10 PM, November 27, 2005
I know who anonymous is....so GINA aka cgamlmnop... when were you going to speak up you nutball!

By Anonymous, at 5:59 PM, November 27, 2005
Uncle Mark,
I want you to know that it was NOT any of us Esparza kids that wrote about you... We all also love you and know if you had the chance or knew you would have help us.
We were all programmed not to tell anyone what was going on in our house. We would never blame you...
Lisa Renee

By Anonymous, at 6:23 PM, November 27, 2005
Dear Gina Corbino,
I am Elena oldest of Suzis daughters, normally i choose not to get involved in this blog thing but you have made me change my mind! I have never met you nor do I ever want to, to call your own mother the name you did...even in a discription is just plain wrong!!! and you have a lot of nerve talking about OUR family when YOUR father used to beat my GRANDMOTHER til she was unconscious! and these are words from MY GRANDMOTHER and YOUR MOTHERS MOUTH!!! so stay out of OUR family affairs because you have some skeletons in your closet as well! you know nothing about us! you speak of us like you know us on a personal level but you know none of us! And please guys all these assumptions on why grandma left have to stop...The only ones who really know are Grandpa and Grandma Chris,Its not what everyone thinks!!! Grandpas letter speaks for its self! so...Let Gram get the help she needs and she will contact who she wishes when shes ready...I know she knows we ALL love her so... LETS STOP ALL THE ASSUMPTIONS! its only gonna hurt Gram in the end.
ELENA

By Anonymous, at 6:26 PM, November 27, 2005
Uncle Mark,

Please DO NOT feel you have to explain yourself to anyone, that is someone who is just trying to push your buttons to keep this stupid mess going, please do not feed into it. I love you...

Love your niece who has your chin ;)

To my family, i love you guys. Remeber our family song??

"We are family.. I got all my sisters with me"

By Anonymous, at 6:51 PM, November 27, 2005
Your letter to Gina is so wrong...Rethink and remember. I havent seen Gina since she was about1 1/2. Anything that was said prior was in the eyes of Paul, not how I feel about Chris. You dont get it.. You guys need to ""reprogram""your minds, or get them out of your asses..

By Anonymous, at 6:52 PM, November 27, 2005
As far as stopping all the assumptions, you assumed i was Gina C. You mentioned her name not knowing, and blamed her for something she has no knowledge of. So, stop the assumptions is right, and apologize to Gina for YOUR ASSUMPTIONS..

By Anonymous, at 7:00 PM, November 27, 2005
anyone can change their story and identity to take the heat off of themself for something they realize they shouldn't of said!

By Anonymous, at 7:03 PM, November 27, 2005
Oh, by the way, who said I was female? Another assumption?

By Anonymous, at 7:11 PM, November 27, 2005
well uncle Mark you know now it was Frank Corbino Jr...
Should have called him a PUTO instead.
by the way Frank we don't want you
as an extended relative either !!!!!!!!!
Sorry Gina that you were blamed for his ignorance.

By Anonymous, at 7:15 PM, November 27, 2005
99 percent of this shit is from anonymous writers including you the writer at 7:03 p.m. Maybe it is you trying to throw someone off.. I can guarantee that all that was said about the family is 100 percent correct..
So, if any of the family has any scrotum left, why dont you all use your names. All of this bullshit came from our family, and our family only..So quit blaming others, and blame Dad for starting this shit.

By Anonymous, at 7:16 PM, November 27, 2005
by the way Frank are you sure you are NOT female?
P***y...

By Anonymous, at 7:21 PM, November 27, 2005
Now, who is assuming it is Frank..
Who said to quit the assumptions?
We are in need of help, big time. Let's keep pushing everyone away from us. Sorry Frank and Gina, I know you must have had a hard time not having your mother. I am sorry my family is a bunch of ASSUMING asshol*s
Lets all use our real names and put the cards on the table..
Who has the balls?

By Anonymous, at 7:21 PM, November 27, 2005

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