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Proviso Probe

Thursday, February 01, 2007

F07, Dooling & Steinbach appear at CUFP forum [FP]

I thought they both did well. Generally their positions were close enough that the second candidate answering seemed to amplify and expand on the first candidate's response. There wasn't much contrast.

Any comments?

[UPDATE: The three candidates have filed their campaign disclosure reports with the State Board of Elections: Citizens for Anthony Calderone, Citizens for Doolin and Citizens for Steinbach.]

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  • They are both great candidates...The Rotten egg is Tony Baloney. The weasel couldnt even show up for a debate. LOSER

    By Anonymous No GUTS Tony, at 12:18 AM, February 02, 2007  

  • Regarding differences, I don't think Steinbach echoed Doolin's proposal to remove elected officials from personnel decisions.

    Regarding the third candidate -- since CUINFP was founded and is still led by an outspoken opponent, I don't think the Mayor considers it to be non-partisan - though I wish he'd shown up anyway.

    I really wish that the two challengers would use their campaign websites to specify the criticisms they have with the current administration.

    In other words, to quote Steinbach's brochure, I'd like a discourse "based on fact,
    not negative innuendo"

    By Blogger chris miller, at 8:07 AM, February 02, 2007  

  • CUinFP is just Steinbach's lame political organization of 5 or 6 local losers. Why should any candidate who wants a fair hearing for all of the citizens give that fringe group of hacks the time of day?

    Oh, and what is the CUinFP position an elected official's taxpayer funded email account? Is it private? Go on the record with your response, open government advocates.

    By Anonymous carlsnuts, at 8:07 AM, February 02, 2007  

  • Anthony J. Peraica spoke before United Power for Action and Justice. The organization was a coalition of Democratic interest groups and front organizations claiming to be community organizations.

    United Power gave Peraica a cooler response than Calderone would have gotten at CUFP. By the time Peraica was done speaking he'd won a respectable chunk over enough that they applauded with some enthusiasm.

    When I ran for school board in Oak Park and River Forest, I ran against the establishment slate. The teachers union endorsed the establishment slate without even contacting me. But I went to every forum I was invited, even ones that were going to be friendly to the establishment. I almost won that election too.

    In politics there are sometimes forums a candidate skips b/c it's obviously a stacked deck. But in my judgment CUFP is not such a forum.

    Calderone should have rounded up a half dozen supporters and gone to the forum. If he got treated unfairly then this would be the story.

    By not participating Calderone reinforced the idea that he only selectively listens to residents of Forest Park. Friends and contributors get heard; everyone else gets dismissed as "the enemy".

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 11:17 AM, February 02, 2007  

  • Since Nyberg is so violently opposed to Calderone, why should the Mayor take political advice from a sworn enemy?

    Giving credibility to the lunatic fringe supporters of an opponent is just plain irresponsible and unintelligent. Calderone did the proper thing by missing this "event".

    Nyberg, I see you haven't criticized Obama for refusing to give interviews to Fox News. The same principle applies in this case.

    I'm certain the Mayor will appear at a respectable, unbiased forum in this election cycle.

    By Anonymous interested, at 12:07 PM, February 02, 2007  

  • Did Fox News present information about Obama that was inaccurate? Was this info intended to impugn Obama? Did Fox neglect to verify the authenticity of the information?

    Has CUFP presented information about Tony Calderone that is untrue? Or is Calderone's grievance against CUFP that the organization has brought to light stuff that's true, but Calderone doesn't want exposed?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 12:17 PM, February 02, 2007  

  • Did the mayor have chicken for dinner last night?

    By Anonymous squawk, at 12:32 PM, February 02, 2007  

  • Calderones not appearing shows he doen't have the courage of his convictions, if he has any convictions. His refusal to even RSVP his intention not to appear shows he has no class. Not that will come as a shock to most people in FP.

    Maybe he should turn the tables. Have a candidate forum hosted by Anthony Bruno.

    By Anonymous whobeboo, at 12:39 PM, February 02, 2007  

  • Nyberg's analysis does not stand up to the facts.

    Calderone is attending a debate sponsored by, among others, the Forest Park Review. That newspaper has been very vocal in its criticisms of Mayor Calderone. So it's not about criticism or bringing facts to light, as you claim. It's that CUinFP is not a credible, nonpartisan organization. They are partisan hacks that don't warrant the presence of any candidate who values integrity in the electoral process.

    By Anonymous interested, at 5:02 PM, February 02, 2007  

  • How are CUFP partisan hacks?

    To what extent do Calderone give preferential treatment to people who are friends and contributors? To what extent are village processes discriminatory against people who are not ATC's friends and contributors?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 11:23 AM, February 03, 2007  

  • The candidate forum, sponsored by CUinFP, speaks for itself, upfront, clean and very credible. He should have been there, period.

    By Anonymous judgingtony, at 9:10 AM, February 04, 2007  

  • I'm not sure that CUINFP is only "5 or 6 local losers" or a "fringe group of partisan hacks".
    (hey-- I'm a member !)

    But I've also begun to wonder whether its leadership is more concerned with electing specific candidates than with its stated mission: "the dissemination of information,
    education and study, promotes a greater awareness of the activities and policies of local government"

    It's pretty hard to argue that the mayor was not justified in avoiding the den of his bitter enemies; and partisan as it is -- I think this website is much more informative than www.cuinfp.org

    And we do need more information !

    Of the 8 candidates for FP commissioner, only two have websites -- and though all three mayoral candidates have
    sites -- they just echo the kind of simple-minded campaign blather that is traditionally found on printed flyers.

    Maybe politics in FP is still mostly about who-knows-who -- while the internet is still too new for FP's aging electorate.
    (here it is -- 4 weeks from the primary -- and candidate Pleypel's blog profile has only had 75 visitors!)

    But I'm guessing that this will change -- as FP gets younger and more upscale.

    By Blogger chris miller, at 9:55 AM, February 04, 2007  

  • I think CUFP should be called SCUFP Some Citizens United in Forest Park. Everyone should know that CUFP is just a small group of people and they don't represent all the residents of Forest Park. They are just a small political group which is run by a man named Backman. That is why the forum Backman had was not well attended, because the group does not represent what is right for all residents, just what Mr. Backman thinks is right.

    By Blogger livinginforestpark, at 10:30 PM, February 09, 2007  

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