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Proviso Probe

Friday, August 18, 2006

ED, what would you tell Stan Fields about Proviso? [D209]

Stan Fields has been offered the superintendent position at Proviso Township High Schools (District 209).

Steven suggested that we try to inform Stan Fields about District 209.
Maybe, we can articulately, intelligently, and gently point Mr. Fields to certain problem areas that he may want to eventually address through an appropriate channel or means of communication with him?

What are the top few things you would tell Fields about District 209 if you had 5-15 minutes with him?


  • I would tell Stan Fields to stay his ass in Mundelein; although, the people in Mundelein and their board does't want him either. He needs to complete his contract in Mundelein. Why is he running from school to school? He is not equip with the skills to takcle Proviso's problem, which is Welch and his excess spending problems.

    By Blogger deja-vu2, at 1:02 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • At Field's level you don't need just anyone offering advice. The guy looks at the books, sizes up the situation and determines what has to be done and what are the consequences of inaction.

    Since the biggest item in a budget rests in the area of labor cost/compensation, this will be the primary target area.

    The poster who chided Fields for his effort to eliminate dept chair positions just didn't get it. Everyone becomes expendable, and you aim to do so without increasing the number of student per classroom. Thus, just about every other area becomes up for grabs, depending on the severity of the situation.

    I mean no offense, but advice from outsiders is just a waste of time. Too limited a perspective and too much self-interest involved to ever amount to much. Only legitimate focus is that which comes out the Business Office. He got his man...err, woman in the key spot. She'll provide the most accurate rundown.

    By Anonymous Mrs. Dash, at 4:54 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • Stan Fields, if you read this, call me, (773)43O-3538.

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 5:29 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • Posting of the Annual Budget on the Web Site:

    Section 17-1.2 of the Illinois School Code (105 ILCS 5/17-1.2) requires school districts with web sites to do two things:

    (1) post the current budget, itemized by receipts and expenditures, on their website

    (2) notify parents/guardians that the budget has been posted and the address of the website.

    This is not being done in 209, nor is the info on school report cards available on the Web site.

    Any one know why?

    By Anonymous he said she, at 8:51 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • He Said She Said great point. Maybe Welch could put this info. in one the vacuous newletters. Welch is really the new supt. for Proviso.

    By Blogger District209Parent, at 9:26 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • I would tell Fields to hold his ground against the Board members. Welch, Flowers and Kelly are strong personalities. They will be his biggest challenge. If he learns how to manage the board, he will be successful. I would also tell Fields to trust but verify. There are so many snakes in Proviso politics, that he has to always trust but verify. Finally, I would tell Fields to ignore the pundants. People like Seth Stern, Carl Nyberg and Kevin Beese (before he disappeared), know nothing about government other than to act as critics. Ignore them and he will be okay.

    By Anonymous Observer, at 10:17 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • The supt. does not manage the board idiot. What are saying that Fields will come in and discipline the board? What is this new supt going to put elected officials in their place. The board manages the supt. and Welch is a micro manager, right down to who gets hired and fired in 209. Let's see how well Fields manages the board when Welch's loses control in April.
    Observer it is obvious that you are Welch. Observer you critize the blog, but you are obsessively on it daily. I see you

    By Blogger deja-vu2, at 11:11 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • Forgot to advertise that Gene Moore is having his annual pinic in Maywood. So, if you are looking for a job in District 209 come out and serve food and kiss Welch and Gene Moore at their kissing booth right behind the Maywood police station. Tongue kisses are $5 and Ass kisses will get you a job in District 209. All are welcome.

    By Blogger deja-vu2, at 11:38 PM, August 18, 2006  

  • What Stan Fields needs to know it that he is getting roughly 30% product of his feeder districts. The rest of the student body is composed of the most mobile and those who lack options.

    If he is serious about 209, he will need to stop the bleeding. Over and above the magnet school, he needs to make it possible for AVERAGE students in the feeder schools to see Proviso as a viable school.

    If he'd like to see what Proviso SHOULD be, he would need to track the feeder students who leave the district BECAUSE of Proviso.

    Any intititive, restructuring or *cringe* yet another FIVE YEAR PLAN will be a futile exercise. The district's root problem is loss of average students between 5th and 9th grades who for obvious reasons flee the district.

    By Anonymous rehctaw, at 1:14 AM, August 19, 2006  

  • I would tell him to be very leery of signing off on documents that Welch recommends and to be careful because Welch will get him locked up!

    He will be singing " I'm Locked Up and They oOn't Let Me Out!"

    By Blogger deja-vu2, at 10:57 AM, August 19, 2006  

  • I would tell him to be very leery of signing off on documents that Welch recommends and to be careful because Welch will get him locked up!

    He will be singing " I'm Locked Up and They oOn't Let Me Out!"

    By Blogger deja-vu2, at 10:57 AM, August 19, 2006  

  • Fields should not listen to Arnie Bryant or others in the community who don't know education!

    By Anonymous deja-vu3, at 12:52 PM, August 19, 2006  

  • Don't listen to any of these so cALLed community activists and unelected morons, also don't listen to the board who are full time hacks and stooges!

    By Anonymous doing it, at 5:30 PM, August 19, 2006  

  • That he needs to tell Welch to stop wearing women's panties under his suit!!

    By Anonymous what fields should do, at 8:13 PM, August 19, 2006  

  • I would tell him that he needs to walk around all of his schools unannounced. Make observations for himself. He also needs to avoid the board politics if he wants to make any positive changes. That may be hard for him to do because he could already be in the middle of them. A good leader also spends some time accessing the situation and listening. If he makes the decision to change things, then he needs to explain the why to everyone and why he came to that decision. Staff and faculty have many times been asked to sit on committees to change something, and then their imput was not used because the decision was alreay made. That is a waste of everyone's time and efforts. After a while good faculty and staff who have something to offer are no longer interested in sitting on this committees. Mr. Fields needs to be very concerned about the high turnover of teachers in the Proviso system. The prevailing philosophy seems to be that if you don't like things the way they are, then leave. Rather than what can be done to make things better and "why" other than salary the faculty and staff are not happy. It is hard to raise test scores of students who do not attend school on a regular basis. Proviso instituted a new registration policy this year and once again parents are registering their children after school starts, when they had all summer to take care of this because the schools were open for registration during the summer.


    By Blogger Augusta, at 2:03 PM, August 20, 2006  

  • Beware of the Ides of March. Welch will be destroyed in this month. He will lose power and wither away like a flower.

    By Blogger hat_off_2da_hack, at 7:24 PM, August 21, 2006  

  • Why would a leader have to waste his/her time surveying the environment in an effort to discern what is the problem? All one need do is look at the data, i.e. test scores and other performance characterictics such as volume of referrals and chronic pattern of awarding low grades. Such patterns are an indication of skill deficits. If you can’t teach in such a culture then you don’t belong.

    Lackluster conditions are always the result of a complacent mindset. It’s only natural that a sizable portion of a workforce will exert the minimum effort that is equivalent to the supplying of their own basic needs. In order to increase productivity, and this is the bottom line, one has to simply threaten that lackluster segment with the removal of their cushions.

    You do this in part by singling out the most productive segment, then take them under your wing. Reward them for the results they generate. They, in essence become the elites. Those outside the inner circle will, so to speak, see their ranks subject to becoming decimated. They’ll read the handwriting on the wall and decide to step up their act or look for the good life elsewhere.

    It ain’t no flatland out there, this is a competition for survival and no one is due a package of entitlements that essentially feathers their own bed while literally tossing those you are supposed to be serving onto the rocky shoals of life.

    I’d get underway with the task of cleaning house, and anyone getting in my way would be in for the fight of their life.

    By Anonymous a candid observation, at 10:28 PM, August 21, 2006  

  • Stan Fields needs to call Don Sloan and set up a meeting ASAP.
    He needs to be giuded by Sloan and needs his expert advice on what to do about staff,contracts and jobs!
    If not he'll be out in 9 months!

    By Anonymous talk to Sloan, at 4:42 PM, August 22, 2006  

  • Whenever we look at quotas of success or failure based on skin color, I ask why we are wasting time looking at this… is the makeup of the NBA based on skin color or performance results? When your wife is hit by a drunk driver, do you care what skin color of the offender is involved? When looking at SAT or ACT test scores, is it skin color that matters? FICA scores don’t adjust up or down on skin color. Is the racial mix of professional boxers the “correct” ratio? Is the racial mixture of jailed offenders “correct” along the Mexican-American border? One more… see if you can find the racial mixture of those paying all US and IL income taxes. Do you think that the skin color mixture is “correct”? If we are going to mandate SOME things be done based on skin color or sex or ethnicity, then we need to do it for EVERYTHING, which will include $$$ received for welfare, WIC, etc. We will need to adjust the $$$ paid to all property taxes and incomes taxes to correctly reflect skin color percentages… right?
    It's not about race as Flowers and Kelly state, to try to get elected on false premises and failed ideolgy,similar to the old communist manifesto, instead it's about parents who care,children who seek to learn and teachers teachin, spend all your money on the children and teachers and get rid of all the unneccesary deadweight in the school, then Proviso will do well. But Mr. Fields if you get rid of all the dead weight in Proviso, then Maywood would fall into a deeper depression economically because 209 and 89 are the only employers of Maywood residents!

    By Anonymous stop the lyin Flowers, at 6:36 PM, August 22, 2006  

  • People Welch will be over in April. He will completely be abolished in two years when he runs for State rep. and school board at the same time. Let's just kick Welch where it hurts in his pockets. Call the feds!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:34 PM, August 22, 2006  

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