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Wednesday, October 25, 2006

MILITARY, National Guard unit returns [NR]

On October 17, a North Riverside National Guard unit, Charlie Company, 205th Medical Battalion returned. The 65 member unit had been activated in August, 2005 and deployed to Iraq, 40 miles north of Baghdad. See Suburban Life (Dan Petrella and Joe Sinopoli).

Welcome home members of the Illinois National Guard.
At the Armory, Brig. Gen. Dennis Celletti, assistant adjutant, U.S. Army, Illinois National Guard, as well as officers of all ranks waited to greet the troops.

A native of Rock Falls, Ill., and a member of the Robert Coulter Jr. American Legion Post in La Grange, Celletti called upon the crowds assembled to lend their support, patience and understanding to the returning soldiers.

"They fought for our freedom, the Iraqis' freedom, and they need your 100 percent support in welcoming them back into the fold," Celletti said.

No, General, they didn't fight for our freedom; they followed orders.

The risk to our freedom is the Bush administration, not Iraqis.

posted by Carl Nyberg at 11:38 AM

7 Comments:

  • Carl, you are an Idiot.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:03 PM, October 27, 2006  

  • peter h, what are you thinking? that personal virtue depends on the moral value of tortured logic?

    By Blogger RetiredPastorNancy, at 4:28 PM, October 30, 2006  

  • No, he's thinking Carl is an idiot. I thought that was clear.

    What you are thinking, not so clear.

    By Blogger Roy, at 5:09 PM, October 30, 2006  

  • Why use a feel good story about a National Guard unit returning from active duty as the back drop for some attack on Bush? As you said these people are just doing their job ("following orders"). A job that entails a certain amount of danger and requires them to be away from their families for long periods of time. A more human way to cover this would have been to share in their joy and welcome them home.

    You could of started a new post on your opinion of Bush policy. Maybe tag it with :

    "ANTIBUSH RANT, The risk to our freedom is the Bush administration, not Iraqis"

    You may not be an idiot, but it was stupid to mix a story about Guard unit coming home and your opinion of Bush policy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:13 AM, October 31, 2006  

  • IMO the original story opened up the political issue by including the bullshit claim that using the U.S. military to occupy Iraq is somehow advancing the freedom of Americans.

    What is the connection between occupying Iraq the freedom of U.S. citizens?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 2:25 PM, October 31, 2006  

  • "What is the connection between occupying Iraq the freedom of U.S. citizens?"

    Are you asking me? Did I defend Bush policy? Did I state I support Bush policy? Did I somehow state your statement was invalid? Did I claim there was a connection between occupying Iraq and the freedom of U.S. citizens? Was this the subject of your post? I read the title as :

    "MILITARY, National Guard unit returns [NR]"

    If you want to discuss Bush Iraq policies in the comments of your posts then should not the title reflect that is some way?

    All I did was question the context of one line in your post and you start cursing and throwing questions back at me.

    "IMO the original story opened up the political issue by including the bullshit claim that using the U.S. military to occupy Iraq is somehow advancing the freedom of Americans."

    This was OK. It addressed the issue I raised. I still think you are wrong and I am right. Oh well. No need to pick a fight here. I asked a question and you answered it. With the question at the end you are making some strange inference that I disagree with you on Iraq policy. Nothing in my post addresses my opinions of current Iraq policy.

    "Vision: Activist journalism that informs and advocates."

    To me journalism implies some level of professionalism. It would be in my opinion nice to see the level of professionalism raised on this site. Why not make your point without dropping a bullshit in? Your posters are going to take there cue from you and when you are constantly swearing they will to. People will not want to engage in discussion with you if they feel you cannot be civil.

    Maybe this is all my fault. I guess I could have been more civil in my first post. I should not have called your decision stupid. I will try to be more civil in the future.

    I would also like to say it is nice to see the members of the Charlie Company, 205th Medical Battalion, returning home safely and I wish them all luck in their future endeavors. It is hard on me and my family when I travel for one week at a time. I can only imagine how difficult it must be to be gone for so long.

    "What is the connection between occupying Iraq the freedom of U.S. citizens?"

    The answer to your question is I have no idea. I do not really understand all of the goals of the current policy in Iraq but U.S. citizens' freedom I do not believe is a core element in their thought process.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:39 PM, October 31, 2006  

  • FRAT I still think Peter said it best

    By Blogger Roy, at 6:34 PM, October 31, 2006  

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