Nice photo from an artistic perspective. However, from a practical perspective, doesn't it make you wonder if the developer has opened these windows up to allow the elements to damage the interior. Then, when it is time to build, the building will suddenly become "unfit for rehab". I particularly worry about this, since the developer IS negotiation with Sprint to move the cells, and also because the development has not come before the council or any other village entity in quite a while.
interested neighbor: saw that they are coming before the Planning Commission 10/2 at 7:00 PM regarding a PUD.
As far as damage to the interior, if you walk past on the Circle bridge it mostly just smells like old building!
What worries me more is that the new development will not have enough parking (per FP codes). But it will probably pass anyways as they passed the Grove Residences with less than required parking? What's up with that?
Thanks for the heads up about the P.U.D. meeting. I know what you mean about the parking. It's going to be a particular problem in the summer when the park is so busy.
The current frame of mind by the powers that be in the village government seems to be "Parking? We don't need no parking. We don't need to give you no stinkin' parking."
Why does anyone need parking? According to the propaganda the developers push on the village council, no one who moves into the village drives a car. EVERYONE takes public transportation to work and no one adds children to the schools.
Obviously, by the council allowing the Residences at the Grove to go through without the required parking, once again they have set a precedent for being STUPID.
I wonder if any of the stupid asses have looked to Madison Commons which is residentially filled and determinded if there is an excess of cars for the residences. They too got a reduction in required parking.
How come there isn't an overflow of parking needed at this site.
I don't know dumb ass but I see kids every morning getting in their mommas car or waiting on the school bus at the condos along Circle Avenue, but I guess those don't count?
All the condo buildings on the east side of the street on Circle between Madison and north of Randolph. You know, those high rise buildings with cars overflowing onto Circle avenue.
So FP-er, you're talking about apartment buildings that were built 50 years ago. I think DA is talking about the new upscale housing that is being constructed in the community. It's pretty clear that none of the new townhomes or Madison Commons has any school aged kids living there.
Candid, how is it you know that it's pretty clear there are NO kids in any of the new developments? Cameras? You know everyone who moved there? Just curious.
Where would there be records about how many children attend school from each development or condo association?
My sense is that the developers are correct that the initial occupants tend not to have children.
To the extent that younger couples buy these condos the families move to single-family homes before the children start school.
How will these couples respond if the economy or the real estate market goes sour? Will they stay in the condos rather than move when their children get to be school age? If some of them do, is it bad for Forest Park? How much harm is it to increase the number of students by a few here and there?
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Nice photo from an artistic perspective. However, from a practical perspective, doesn't it make you wonder if the developer has opened these windows up to allow the elements to damage the interior. Then, when it is time to build, the building will suddenly become "unfit for rehab". I particularly worry about this, since the developer IS negotiation with Sprint to move the cells, and also because the development has not come before the council or any other village entity in quite a while.
By Anonymous, at 1:11 PM, September 17, 2006
interested neighbor: saw that they are coming before the Planning Commission 10/2 at 7:00 PM regarding a PUD.
As far as damage to the interior, if you walk past on the Circle bridge it mostly just smells like old building!
What worries me more is that the new development will not have enough parking (per FP codes). But it will probably pass anyways as they passed the Grove Residences with less than required parking? What's up with that?
By Anonymous, at 10:06 AM, September 18, 2006
Thanks for the heads up about the P.U.D. meeting. I know what you mean about the parking. It's going to be a particular problem in the summer when the park is so busy.
The current frame of mind by the powers that be in the village government seems to be "Parking? We don't need no parking. We don't need to give you no stinkin' parking."
By Anonymous, at 10:24 AM, September 18, 2006
Why does anyone need parking? According to the propaganda the developers push on the village council, no one who moves into the village drives a car. EVERYONE takes public transportation to work and no one adds children to the schools.
Obviously, by the council allowing the Residences at the Grove to go through without the required parking, once again they have set a precedent for being STUPID.
By Anonymous, at 9:12 AM, September 19, 2006
I wonder if any of the stupid asses have looked to Madison Commons which is residentially filled and determinded if there is an excess of cars for the residences. They too got a reduction in required parking.
How come there isn't an overflow of parking needed at this site.
What a bunch of stupid asses. Bla Bla Bla
By Anonymous, at 11:26 AM, September 19, 2006
How many school children out of Brown Street Station?
How many school children out of Madison Commons?
How many school children out of Tria Townhomes?
Facts please. Just the facts.
Oh that's right you don't have any just a bunch of bullshit.
How many school children from any condo or any townhome?
Come on give us the facts.
Carl............Carl...... maybe you can get these facts. Bla Bla Bla
By Anonymous, at 11:30 AM, September 19, 2006
I don't know dumb ass but I see kids every morning getting in their mommas car or waiting on the school bus at the condos along Circle Avenue, but I guess those don't count?
By Anonymous, at 1:06 PM, September 19, 2006
And what condo's might those be?
By Anonymous, at 6:01 PM, September 19, 2006
All the condo buildings on the east side of the street on Circle between Madison and north of Randolph. You know, those high rise buildings with cars overflowing onto Circle avenue.
By Anonymous, at 10:59 AM, September 20, 2006
So FP-er, you're talking about apartment buildings that were built 50 years ago. I think DA is talking about the new upscale housing that is being constructed in the community. It's pretty clear that none of the new townhomes or Madison Commons has any school aged kids living there.
By Anonymous, at 2:41 PM, September 20, 2006
Candid, how is it you know that it's pretty clear there are NO kids in any of the new developments? Cameras? You know everyone who moved there? Just curious.
By Anonymous, at 4:34 PM, September 20, 2006
Where would there be records about how many children attend school from each development or condo association?
My sense is that the developers are correct that the initial occupants tend not to have children.
To the extent that younger couples buy these condos the families move to single-family homes before the children start school.
How will these couples respond if the economy or the real estate market goes sour? Will they stay in the condos rather than move when their children get to be school age? If some of them do, is it bad for Forest Park? How much harm is it to increase the number of students by a few here and there?
By Carl Nyberg, at 4:51 PM, September 20, 2006
I guess if you listen to some of the dumb asses in Forest Park maybe we should have NO children in our schools.
Thar's right NO children.
Fire all the teachers, fire the admoin staff and sell the school buildings.
See problem solved.
By Anonymous, at 10:25 PM, September 21, 2006
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