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Proviso Probe

Friday, April 28, 2006

GOV, what perks make sense?

At least one person is grumbling about school board members--and other elected officials--getting perks like mobile phones.

Maybe I've become part of the establishment, but providing mobile phones to elected officials makes sense. Do you want elected officials to take phone calls from constituents?

As a member of the media, I call elected officials and ask them questions--and occasionally give 'em some grief.

Now, if it's true that a certain village gives trustees free gasoline for their cars that's pretty hard to justify. I would even argue that it's illegal unless authorized in a village board meeting.

I also have reservations about Maywood giving trustees a discretionary budget. See Proviso Probe. Somehow it doesn't seem right to give elected officials money to buy goodwill from constituents. If a village wants to do this, it should just increase the pay of the elected officials and then the constituents could see how generous their elected officials are.

I think it's time for Illinois to pay school board members and probably members of the library boards and park districts too. But elected officials who accept the pay should be held to a higher standard on conflict of interest issues. No more giving jobs and contracts to your brother, niece and best friend from gradeschool.

What do you think? Extra credit for people that can avoid attacking specific elected officials and focus on the substance of the issue.

65 Comments:

  • Hey Carl, like Joe Friday you say "Just the Facts,sir ,just the facts". How about the saying,"If you do the crime,you'll do the time"!
    Everyone, Carl has to follow the law,like the impeachment efforsts against the president for lying and misleading us,and circumventing the law, the same applies to the accused as well as to the acuser!
    We hold elected official to higher standards,and hypocrisy won't be tolerated!
    Now read the actual Illinois Law which governs school board members; read for your self and interpet the law yourself. It is apparently quit clear that board members are not allowed to be compensated, as well as quite clear about travel expenses.

    2:125 Board Member Expenses




    1.Board members may not receive compensation for their services.


    2.Travel

    3.The Board of Education may advance or reimburse members the actual and necessary expenses incurred while attending:




    • Meetings sponsored by the Illinois State Board of Education or by the Regional Superintendent of Schools;




    • County or regional meetings and the annual meeting sponsored by any school board association complying with Article 23 of The School Code; and




    • Meetings sponsored by an organization in the field of public school education.




    No advance payment shall be made except for specific reservations for travel, advance registration, and lodging. The check for advance payments shall be written directly to the agency by the School District's treasurer.




    Members must submit to the Superintendent an itemized, signed voucher showing the amount of actual expenses, attaching receipts to the voucher if possible. If the member's actual and necessary expenses exceed the amount advanced, the member shall be reimbursed; if they are less than the amount advanced, the member shall refund the difference.




    A bill for a group function should have the names of members attending noted on the receipt. Expense vouchers shall be evaluated and approved or rejected by the Board of Education in its regular billing process.




    No money shall be advanced or reimbursed for the expenses of any person except the Board of Education member.




    Registration




    When possible, registration fees will be paid by the School District in advance.




    Transportation




    The least expensive transportation shall be used, providing that no hardship shall be caused to the Board member. Board of Education members will be reimbursed for:




    • Air travel at the coach or single class commercial airline rate. First class air travel will be reimbursed only if emergency circumstances warrant. The emergency circumstances must be explained on the expense voucher. Copies of airline tickets must be attached to the expense voucher.




    • Rail or bus travel at actual cost. Rail or bus travel costs may not exceed the cost of coach airfare. Copies of tickets will be attached to the expense voucher to substantiate amounts.




    • Use of personal automobiles at the standard mileage rate approved by the Internal Revenue Service for income tax purposes. The reimbursement may not exceed the cost of coach airfare. Mileage for use of personal automobiles in trips to and from transportation terminals will also be reimbursed. Toll charges and parking costs will be reimbursed.




    • Automobile rental costs when the vehicle's use is warranted. The circumstances for such use must be explained on the expense voucher.




    • Taxis, airport limousines, or other local transportation costs.




    Hotel/Motel Charges




    Board of Education members should request conference rate or mid-fare room accommodations. Other expenses incurred by Board of Education members will be reimbursed when specifically related to School District business. The expense voucher or hotel bill must explain the types of expenses incurred.




    Board of Education members shall pay personal expenses that are charged to hotel room bills at checkout. If that is impossible, deductions for the charges should be made on the expense voucher.




    Meal Charges




    Meal charges to the School District should represent "mid-fare" selections for the hotel/meeting facility or general area. Tips shall be included with the meal charges. Expense vouchers must explain the meal charges incurred.




    Miscellaneous Expenses




    Board of Education members may include any other costs related to Board activities on expense vouchers.




    Personal Charges




    All personal travel costs must be excluded from the expense voucher.




    LEGAL REF.:




    105 ILCS 5/10-22.32.




    CROSS REF.:




    2:120




    ADOPTED: August 19, 1996

    By Anonymous Just the Facts, at 7:18 PM, April 28, 2006  

  • We have to define perks in terms of school board members. Being a representative of District 209 and conducting business on their behalf, weather it be in Illinois or in Idaho, and being reimbursed by the district for expenses occured is not a perk. It's business...hopefully necessary business that garners some measurable results.

    A perk is sitting at the 50 yard line of the Bears game...strictly for pleasure.
    A perk is receiving gifts just because you’re an elected official.

    Being reimbursed for expenses occured while conducting business on behalf of the District and school board is not a perk. It is a necessary, fair and standard operating proceedure.

    By Anonymous Reimbursement, perks and proceedures, at 11:32 AM, April 29, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:59 AM, April 29, 2006  

  • 1.Can we please then see who voted for cell phones and who voted against them?
    2.Can we see the actual bills from each board member, and see what numbers are being used for Board purposes?
    3.Does 209 also pay for cell phones,Blackberry phones,ear pieces?
    4.What plan and minutes are being used?
    5.If board business is so important and board members need cell phones to comminicate with each other,(I doubt Welch and Kelly or Flowers call each other),why not instead pay for and give phones to all our teachers with the same plans as our"Great Education Leaders who are the compass of our Universe and know better than us the taxpayers and parents" our dysfunctional, poorly educated school board ?
    I am waiting for a response, an educated response!!

    By Anonymous Parent and Taxpayer, at 12:09 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • From the Chicago Tribune editorial

    Ryan has claimed all along that he did nothing wrong, and that he knew nothing about the crimes of his compatriots. His evident attitude toward his own corrupt acts mirrored the phrase his lawyer frequently used during the trial's closing arguments: "Who cares?" Twelve jurors cared. Twelve jurors, acting for the 12 million people of Illinois. Twelve jurors devoted to the notion - plainly novel to Ryan - that citizens are entitled to the honest services of the public officials they elect to office.

    Lead Prosecutor Patrick Collins

    "Whether you're the dogcatcher or the governor, you are elected to do work for the citizens," said lead prosecutor Patrick Collins in another post-verdict news conference. "This duty of honest services is not something it takes someone with a law degree to understand. Public officials have a duty of honest services; that is, to serve the people and not their private interests. And anybody who hears this, if they want to serve their private interest, they ought to go get a job in the private sector."

    By Anonymous words to ponder for the 209 board, at 12:15 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • The law is not unchangable.

    My suggestion is that we should change the law. More compensation for elected officials, but higher obligations too.

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 12:35 PM, April 29, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:08 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • I think cell phones, especially Blackberry phones with email, text messaging, internet, wireless ear pieces and what not for board members in 209 is irresponsible spending. Shame on them. I also think 3 to 4 trips a year at tax payer expense without any type of reporting mechanism is highway robbery. Again, shame on the 209 board member who does it. Worse yet, she's always saying the district is broke, but she's the first one to head to the airport to spend district money. There should be something we can do about this.

    By Anonymous Board Watcher II, at 7:49 PM, April 29, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:59 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • Funny...

    A blackberry is not some state of the art machine that only the rich and the elite can afford.

    Emails and text messaging come standard on nearly every cell phone on the market.

    What year is this...1965?

    By Anonymous 7.5 million is the answer!, at 11:05 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • Traveling to school board conferences as prescribed by the law is not a perk.

    Now, bringing back 7.5 million dollars is a perk the whole district can share!

    How do you help a cash strapped district? You contribute 7.5 million dollars to the cause.

    By Anonymous Nice Perk!, at 11:31 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • Ms. Kelly I am still waiting for your answers to the questioned posted. Do think you can respond in a timely manner?

    By Anonymous telling the truth, at 11:50 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • 7.5 million...

    By Anonymous Answer for Welch, at 11:52 PM, April 29, 2006  

  • 7.5 million is the answer! said...
    Funny...

    A blackberry is not some state of the art machine that only the rich and the elite can afford.

    Emails and text messaging come standard on nearly every cell phone on the market.

    What year is this...1965?

    It is Charlie, it is a high end cell phone that normally heads of companies and dept. heads use. The price is prohibitive to most individuals who don't work for major companies or don't own there own successful companies!
    I guess you think it's ok because the taxpayers are paying for it!
    But Charlie,unless your thinking your "Boss " of Proviso and your small ego needs a Blackberry to "prove to the world you have made it", it still is fleecing of the taxpayers money, and you of all people should no better! You have postioned yourself as independent of the establishment and of "taking on the system",but yet again you fall to the prey of garden of Eden's apple tree!
    Your no better than people you acuse,at least there not hypocrites!
    You have let us down,Charlie,once again you have let us down!

    By Anonymous Charles Flowers has let us down, at 12:00 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • How ye of little intelligence opens mouth and inserts foot!

    I think you need to do your research.

    And yes, you still live in 1965!

    By Anonymous Nice Perk!, at 12:08 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • ARE WE BLIND PEOPLE> ALL BOARD MEMBERS HAVE CELL PHONES EVEN THE "WELSH" and BOB "THE RETARD" LIBKA. TELL THE TRUTH YOU WELSH! YOUR GODMOTHER HAS A PHONE< AND ALL SHE DOES IS CURSE OUT PARENTS, STUDENTS, AND TEACHERS ON IT. HOW DO YOU CONTINUE TO DEFEND SUCH AN IRRATE AND MANIAC DEPRESSED WOMAN?


    ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE IN THE HELL IS THE 40 MILLION DOLLARS? PMSA IS NICE, BUT IT IS NOT WORTH 40 MILLION. Mr. WELSH EMPTY YOUR POCKETS AND GIVE THE COMMUNITY BACK THEIR 40 MILLION DOLLARS YOU STOLE! ALSO, FIRE THAT DUMB ASS CEO!

    By Blogger we-want-our-40mill-bakc, at 12:27 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • Dear Carl, I can't believe that Theresa Kelly has failed to repond to the questions posted of her.As a 209 board member,she has the obligation to respond to the voters/taxpayer/parents of Proviso if there is questionable financial dealings occuring in the district, as specifically with the elected 209 board!
    I only see her respond with propaganda statements,spins,and trying to change the topic of conversation to personal attacks and to attacking Chris Welch!
    I believe that Flowers response was that Blackberry phones are no big deal and he could care less if the taxpayers pay for his phone,earpiece,e-mail,text messaging and unlimited minutes!Why does Flowers not propose then to give free Blackberry's to all the teachers at Proviso with the same plan he has?What's next free gas for 209 board members?
    I wonder when Flowers takes over the board what he will tell the teachers,"now you know if you spend any time on the phone in school we will fire you,especially if your white or friends of Chris Welch"! What other arrogant behavior will he show when he runs the board? I bet he will do the same things he did at 89.
    God save Proviso from it self!
    Thersa Kelly is a coward!

    By Anonymous thersa and charlie, at 12:27 AM, April 30, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:30 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • My response has always been that I am a lying, cheating politican that steals from his own people. I gave most of the money to the Italian boys, hoping that they would support me in the end, but they turned around and helped Yarbrough win the election.

    I don't know any better. I can't explain my actions. I grew up in a very disfuntional home. I began lying at a very young age. It started off with simple things, like I have lied and told people that I like women. Not Ture!

    I have an illness that I am seeking help with. I lie to get sympathy votes. My bi-polar mental illness is getting worse everyday. I dress up in women clothes and model for Gene Moore to ease my pain.

    I know I am an evil person, and the first step to recovery is admitting I have a problem. Please help me! I am a very very sick woman, I mean sick man.

    By Blogger chris-the-welsh, at 12:37 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • I can't believe how Welch is able to persuade people to say scuh vicious lies and spread false statements. One of his supporters on the blogger mentioned that they were a Christian. Christians don't speak and talk in the manner that Welch does and many of his supporters have displayed in public and on the blogger. I don't want to call names out like Welch and others have done, but know that Jesus sits high and He looks low. Jesus knows the truth.

    May you find help in the Lord.

    By Blogger welch-supporters-need-jesus, at 12:45 AM, April 30, 2006  

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    By Anonymous the star that always shines bright, at 12:48 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • anonymous 12:30pm........
    Ms. Kelly does not read blogs? What is it, the 209 board is not given home computers or laptops free charge? Now I understand she can't navigate the internet and she can't read blogs. Interesting....
    What a spin, I guess she is afraid to answer a real question.
    And why does Ms. Kelly go on trips with Ms. Marine and Della Patterson? Who pays for those other two ladies? does 209 pay?

    By Anonymous curious, at 12:56 AM, April 30, 2006  

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    By Blogger 209sucks, at 12:59 AM, April 30, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:05 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • Chris you know damn well Patterson works for the district and Ms. Marine has not been on any trips. You need to take your PUNK ASS on a trip or two. Maybe you could learn something to bring the test scores up and the morale up in the buildings. What

    You went to the Black Cacus with Gene Moore and 209 paid for it! You went to the Liberty Bowl with Wallace. How nasty! Who paid your way? You went to New Orleans with Imoni Baxter and 209 paid for it. You are a board member and so is Kelly, but you did not bring 7.5 million dollars back.


    You need to worry about your upcoming educational hearing. OOOPPPPSSSS! The cat is out of the bag. Get your lies ready for the State! You need to prepare your statements, so get your PUNK ASS OFF THE BLOGGER LYING!

    By Blogger Change_Is_Coming, at 1:07 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • To the star that shines bright:

    You have just validated how CRAZY and BI-POLAR Welch and his supporters are. Thanks for the heads up. You need help man.

    Everyone out there in Internet land. Please leave Welch alone. This fool is CRAZY for real. He is sick and needs help. He is CRAZY enough to even do something even CRAZIER than spending 40 million on PMSA. And we thought that was his CRAZIEST action to date.

    Stay away from Welch. HE HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND. Chris please seek help at the Bristol Center for mental illness.

    By Blogger HELP_PROVISO_PLEASE, at 1:12 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • That last comment from star that always shines bright:

    Are you on like on crack? Are you really Welch? Do you need help? Are you having a mental break down? Do you need a ride to Madden's Hospital?

    If you are not Welch I am sure he does not know about that last comment, but thanks for it anyway. You just affirmed what assholes Welch supporters are!

    By Blogger Everybody_hates_Chris_with_A_Passion, at 1:19 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • It is refreshing to know that the readers of this blog are aware of the deception and diversion being played out by Chris Welch.

    This should show us that we have to be more vigilant than ever when it comes to working for the best interest of our children and our community.

    This is a wake up call!

    In the past, we paid little attention to the school board and politics that affect our community and the everyday lives of our children. We have learned that this is not the proper way to go through life.

    When we turn a blind eye to politicians whose interests are self-serving we end up with 40 million dollar back door deals, out of control construction costs, under qualified relatives and friends controlling positions of power and systematic presidential impropriety.

    The question is, now that we know the above to be fact, how do we go about creating change and reclaiming our communities?

    We have to galvanize our base and take grass roots, commonsense approach. We have to literally touch every citizen in the community and appeal to their sensibilities and their thirst for progress.

    We cannot afford to let this opportunity pass us by. Our work has only just begun, but unified and determined, we will make a difference in Proviso Township!

    By Anonymous Our time has come!, at 10:33 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • To our time has come, I agree with you that we,the community of parents,all the residents of Proviso and the taxpayers have been taken advantage for way to long,by these people who talk out of both sides of there mouths.
    We need to either elect individuals who's sole purpose is the betterment of education for all the students and we need to pass a resolution or a law that there be term limits on anyone's involvement.
    No more abuse of our tax dollars,we need answers,from Welch on why he needed to pass a back door referendum and we need Kelly and Flowers to answer why they arein favor of the taxpayers paying for the cell phones, and why do they think it's important to take so many school convention trips annually,without having a way to show the taxpayer where and how our money is being spent!
    Also why do we need to have board members on the board longer than two terms?
    No more politicians on school boards should be the motto!
    We should ask Mr. Welch to please hand over all the travel expenses of each board member with all expenditures itemized as well as the costs,bills and number of calls each board member has made monthly ,so we the taxpayer can decide if this is where we want our money spent!
    Also I have not seen a response to the questions asked of Ms. Kelly. Does she think that she does not have to answer to the taxpayer?
    What about Flowers with his use of a Blackberry phone? he has yet to respond.
    That attitude of disdain and disrespect to the voters,parents and taxpayers may play in Maywood, but the rest of the township is offended and wants a response,if not we will wait until election day to give you are response!

    By Anonymous the time has come to answer, at 10:56 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • Thanks to Thersa Kelly and Mr. Flowers the Bellwood residents are now becoming aware of how the village mayor Pasqualli allows himself,his village trustee's and herrell and sei to get free gas for there cars. This is outrageous and totally ridiculous!
    Pasqualli is fleecing all the taxpayers of Bellwood with his free gas to his trustee's and himself. I wonder who watches over the finances in town,it must be like a fox in a chicken coop!
    I guess the Plantation Owner,Pasqualli knows how to keep his "blackies" calm, he gives free gas to his plantation over searers, annd they keep "the mullies down"! Brillant!
    I recommend that all of bellwood go tomorrow to see Pasqualli and demand free gas for there cars,cnsidering the high cost of gas now a days! If he refuses ask to see what the village spends each month on this novice program and also make sure to dance for the master!
    I guess Pasqaulli get's a free ride, because eventhough he still employs Bruno,refuses to fire Sam Sei for imposturating as police officer, and he still thinks only white's can do anything right, with his insitance that Herrell continue running the park district,he gets a free ride, because he is the owner and god forbid the so called black leaders tell him that he is no longer going to decide what is need in our community!
    "Now Welch,Yarbrough,Lightford,Moore,Flowers and Kelly start dancing for your master,or else you'll get whipped"!

    By Anonymous keeping blacks down, at 11:27 AM, April 30, 2006  

  • Welchy people see right through your games and false statements. You are not even able to disguise yourself when you are writing lies and your supporters must get brownie butt kissing points for helping you come up with the garbage that you generate. I am sure you have to write the janitors and security statements for them or is Wallace and her dazed and dumb sister doing all the editing and writing for you. You are a pitiful human being and the people that support you are either dirty like you; a relative; an employee that you promised a job, or are eating from the Proviso Pot of money you have secured for them. Why did Proviso ever vote you in? We were better off with Manzo and Klaycinski becuz you are far worse than those stooges. You make Manzo look like an angel and Klacinski look like the Virgin Mary. You are a modern day female slave. You are getting raped by the white man.
    As for your supporters you will never get the support that Yarbrough, Davis, Kelly, Flowers, Pasquele, receive. You don't have the legacy that they have, you have nothing but a little piece of the pie. You are still a share cropper, and you still owe the Master at the end of each year. Your supporters are criminals, janitors, and former teachers that don't even live in Proviso, What an IMBECILE you are! While you are blasting others, you need to get your campaign together because it is falling apart. I wonder why you dropped the suit against Nyberg. Inquiring minds want to know Mr. "I can't tell the truth to save my soul" Welch! Why did all of a sudden did Mr."I will sue my mama" Welch drop a law suit?

    Check your wig "Baldie Locks" it is crooked. Also, your panties are showing under your house coat. The people in the community are not holding anything back, they are coming strong and deep to make sure you don't get a seat any where elese. If you thought you worked hard to win the school board, get ready for a whole new ball game partner. We are coming out the cracks to put an end to your antics.

    See you in confession, altar boy!

    By Blogger Change_Is_Coming, at 1:00 PM, April 30, 2006  

  • I could not believe how arrogant Welch is. I mean I have heard things about him, but never realized that he is so very egotiscal. He needs to understand it is about the children and not that his names appears everywhere. Also, his name appears at basketball games and there was a big banner with his name on it at the homecoming game at EAST. Are the tax payers paying for this extremely large banner that he uses as advertisement? This seems like the biggest perk of them all. He received free advertisement for his failed campaign.

    I have seen this blue and white banner at several of the childrens' games and it is a disgrace. Carl ask Libka who is paying for this large banner. Does anyone else see the problem with Welch having that large banner at games? Why not put 209 board on the banner? Why does CHRIS WELCH NAME HOG THE BANNER

    By Blogger District209Parent, at 6:39 PM, April 30, 2006  

  • Mister Potato Head Strikes Again...

    This is Locked in the Closet #2.
    ATTENTION! ATTENTION! ATTENTION!Welch has locked Mister Potato Head in the closet and has forced him to do such an horrendous act against District 209 children.

    *****Mister Potato Head: Welch, why must I do this, I am a man of God. I sent my children to Walter Lutheran. Look I have on my religious tie tonight. Isn't it pretty like the sky. I just love day dreaming and wondering off into space. Where am I again? Oh, I am sitting in the closet with Mr. Petety Wheat Straw.

    Welch: "Libka, you damn ROCK HEAD just shut up DUMMY, I pay you well to be the White devil and to do my dirty work against the Black men and children in 209."

    ****Mister Potato Head: But why do you lock me in the closet? I can't breathe and I am scared. I need my night light. Can I do magic trick for you? I can juggle. If I juggle four balls at one time will you let me out of the closet? I have done everything you have asked me.

    Welch: I like it in the closet. Because I am safe in the closet I will remain in the closet until GENE MOORE is ready to let me out. You are safe in closet beacuse I am here. I will come out one day, but unitl then do what I say

    *****Mister Potato Head: " Well who are we going to go after next, Berry, Bryant, Robertson, Moore, Novickas, Johnson (the black one)?"

    Welch: "Maybe, but no one, absolutely no one messes with the Wicked Witch of the West Alexis Wallace and her bearded female, testerone gang: Palm, Mcgee, Walton, Miller-Watson, Jones, and the white people she loves more than she loves herself"

    ***Mister Potato: "Okay Boss man, what ever you say. Are you worried? Do you have a conscious? Do you think this will mess up your chance for State Rep.

    Welch" "Libka you BIG ROCK HEAD! Where have you been I lost the election for State Rep. and I lost bad!" "I didn't care about State Rep! I am just an evil nasty man that needs to find some real manly things to do. I get bored knitting, painting my nails, and dressing up for Gene Moore"

    ****Mister Potato Head: But Welch you know the community will know I am not responsible for what is going on, because I am so DUMB and can't make a decision without calling our attorneys! They have to know that I take all my orders from you. I have a hard time getting dressed in the morning, and now I am CEO of 209. My,My, My, my head is begining to swell. Where am I? Who am I? Did I just put my whole foot in my mouth again? My toe tastes a little bitter this time, like salty candy. Do you like candy, Mr. Welch? I like all kinds of candy! I like going to the circus and seeing all of my old friends, the clowns. Hey, did I just hear a toilet flush? That must have been my wife.


    Welch: "Just shut up you idiot and get your head out of the toilet. We have evil and demeaning work to do. Now get Lucifer on the phone! Me and him have a 12 noon lunch date!"

    ****Mister Potato Head: Okay Mr. Petety Wheat Straw! Can me and my wife come with. I will call Mcgee to take pictures. This is going to be big fun. Do I need to call the attorneys to see if I can bring my wife? I can't do anything without their approval you know.
    WOW! We get to meet a real celebrity! Thanks Petety Wheat Straw! Welch you are the bestest BOSS in the world. You gave a RETARD like me the opportunity to be CEO of the biggest circus in town.

    Welch: You are not the CEO of Barnables and Bailey Circus. You are the CEO of district 209, YOU IDIOT!

    *****Mister Potato Head: Sorry, I knew something was wrong. Because I was looking for elephants, tigers, bears, and cotton candy when I got to work today.

    Welch: Libka just shut the hell up and from now on let the attorneys do all the talking.

    **** Mister Potato Head: Talking what talking. I haven't said anything...... Now, where I am?


    This saga continues monthly at 209 board meetings. Stay tuned for another episode of MISTER POTATO HEAD A.K.A. Bob Libka and Mr. Petey Wheat Straw A.K.A. Chris Welch A.K.A the devil's son-in-law

    By Blogger Mister_Potato_Head, at 7:17 PM, April 30, 2006  

  • The Level of Irrational Hatred and Vitrol here is extremely Frightening..

    I see Racist Undertones ary

    I also see a Polity that has deteoriated to the Point that can be considered nothing short of shameful

    How can we expect to come together as a community when our community is rife with such acrimony

    The Accusations that are being thrown out here and other threads are short of dangerous at the very least.....

    How do we expect to succeed and grow as a community when we choose to spend our time spreading such lies and decieit

    You should all be ashamed of yourself

    By Anonymous I'm No Dr. Phil But, at 9:09 PM, April 30, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:35 PM, April 30, 2006  

  • telling the truth said...
    Ms. Kelly ,I am still waiting for your response to the questions posted.


    P.S. Arnie get off the blog!

    By Anonymous parents concerned, at 10:46 PM, April 30, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:36 AM, May 01, 2006  

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:05 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • To all of Ms. Kelly's supporters,please see what is wrong with your defense of her. Nobody is putting her down, we all fought to eliminate Moore and Welch, but now how can we with good concious stand here and allow Ms. Kelly to slip down the slope of cronism,and the slope of petty corruption?
    She needs to answer the questions, regarding cell phones being paid for her and the other board members by the district as well as the abuse of school trips!
    Why are you individuals against her responding?
    Does it not appear hypocritcal on our part, if we attack the oppostion for there misdeeds, and yet keep quite about Ms. Kelly and Mr. Flowers also taking advantage of there postions?
    It appears to me that neither side has the interest of the children,parents and taxpayers in mind.The only interest is "who becomes the house Niggar" for the MAN!
    Maywood reminds me, as well as 209 ,of the same politics of Sudan, where the oppostion party is only interested in killing there enemies and not doing anything for there country!
    No wonder the white communities of Proviso do not want anything to do with the black community.
    Who could blame them, when neither black faction at 209 will fess up to all the shenagans each pulls on the taxpayers!
    Kelly and Flowers are no different from Moore and Welch,the only difference between both of these gangs of thieves is who'll be allowed to steal!
    Kelly and Flowers should wear a bandana along with there supporters with the colr red,so everyone knows that they represent the bloods, and Welch and Moore and there supporters should wear blue bandanas representing the cripts!

    By Anonymous when will kelly respond, at 9:28 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • There are 2 things that are guaranteed in life. That’s death and taxes. We will be paying taxes all our lives regardless of who’s in control. I am all for conscious spending of my tax dollars for and by my elected officials. All I ask is to be able to see measurable results. Theresa Kelly has showed us all results to the tune of 7.5 million dollars. 7.5 million dollars is an extremely generous return and more than covers her travel costs and cell phone bills. This is not frivolous spending.

    I don’t understand why someone would try to ignore these results and choose to wallow in the pettiness of knick picking and politics. This is a total witch-hunt and an utter waste of time. I do not blame Theresa Kelly for not responding to this nonsense. I would rather have her to continue working to improve my district than answer these ridiculous charges on a blog.

    By Anonymous Death and Taxes, at 10:10 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • Parent & Taxpayer, do you expect school board members to return phone calls of constituents? Who should pay for these calls?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 11:08 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • Should teachers get mobile phones as well as board members? If you want board members returning phone calls from parents, isn't it equally true for teachers?

    Of course, it's comparing apples and organges because teachers get paid and board members don't.

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 11:11 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • Unless someone posts under their name in a discussion, why are you asking someone a question?

    Asking Theresa Kelly to answer a question in a thread on a blog is goofy if she's not part of the discussion. You might as well be asking Kelly to respond to your question in an empty room.

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 11:13 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • I deleted comments by "anonymous". Use a pseudonym. I also deleted one for a gratuitous comment about other people's sex lives. Maybe it was two comments.

    Sorry for taking so long to enforce the rules.

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 11:29 AM, May 01, 2006  

  • Parent & Taxpayer, do you expect school board members to return phone calls of constituents? Who should pay for these calls?

    Dear Carl, I don't believe that parents need to be contacting School board members on a regular basis.The school board is suppose to oversee the school budget and the superintendent.There role in the education of our students is to make sure that our students and teachers have the neccesary tools to reach these goals.I have never heard a school district, that the board is setting and settling school matters for individual parents and students.
    No wonder discipline is so difficult at our schools, when parents don't have to listen to teachers, nor the prinicipals and can go directly to to a school board member who then will dictate policy to the prinicipals and teachers! Your idea of school board embers having to field constant phone calls of parents would create chaos beyond the chaos that is Proviso!!
    Should teachers get mobile phones as well as board members? If you want board members returning phone calls from parents, isn't it equally true for teachers?
    If board members have phone then the only logical solution is to have teachers get cell phones with unlimited minutes paid by the taxpayers to be able to call parents.Teachers have to use there personal time,after school and work late at night and to reach most working parents it is not until 7:00pm, so yes let's give them cell phones!
    But let's stop the joking around and get serious , the school finances are in the gutter and board members of the worst testing school in Cook County have Blackberry phones and unlimited minutes and we the foolish taxpayer has to pay for these incompetent fools who are fleecing us blind!
    Carl Proviso not only has white flight , it also is suffering from Brain flight!

    By Anonymous Parent and taxpayer, at 12:38 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • Don't be a hypocrite said...
    To Death and Taxes......
    I applaude you and Ms. Kelly for getting the 7.5 million grant for Proviso.Great Job!
    Now does that change anything about the issue that the taxpayers want a response from her and Flowers? Your spin cannot avoid the questions.Your spin is like comparing apples to oranges,it's two different things!
    Continued Deception,lies,spins,rantings ,changing the subject,personal attacks on others to deflect from what is being sought and what is needed for your redemption, Ms. Kelly and Mr. Flowers won't answer.They both refuse to respond to the taxpayers. There behavior is the equivalent of "His and her Royal Majesty", refusing to answer the questions of the peon taxpayers!!!
    They behavior and there reaction has shown there discontempt towards others,especially the tax payers and voters.What a way to show leadership and moral rectitude!
    There will never be hope for black america with leaders like these who skirt the questions of there corruption and yell and blame others for there problems!
    Just like Marion Barry when caught on videotape smoke a crack pipe with a prostitute,and blaming the media and whitey of trying to set him up, Ms. Kelly and Mr. Flowers are no better.
    And just to think ,that all they had to do was answer the questions?

    By Anonymous don't be a hypocrite, at 12:45 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • Ignorance does not garner a respones, but thanks for playing...

    By Anonymous 7.5 Million to the taxpayers, at 1:00 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • I had no idea that Chris Welch was this desperate.

    Sir, your obession with Theresa Kelly is going to drive you insane!

    Here's a perk that is needed a.s.a.p...

    We need to be able to send Chris Welch for a psychological examination!

    ...Like yesterday! Don't worry...the taxpayers will be more than happy to foot this bill.

    Now, that's a step in the right direction!

    By Anonymous Obsessed with Theresa Kelly, at 1:16 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • The one that is obssesed with Welch is Kelly,Flowers and Wicks(who by the way needs to blog under his name instead of under "crome dome").
    Neither of these individuals have the record to run on there own merits! No significant acomplishment has been made under any of these three in education in Proviso Township.
    All they have done is to embarrass themselves and our communities with there silly tirades,blaming others instead of themselves.
    STOP balming others for your weak minds and stop disrespecting our community. Tell us what you will do to make the district better and the schools run better and how all the students will benifit from you three being in office.Because up to now all you have given back to the districts is your expense accounts on your numerous trips and on your cell phone bills that the taxpayers have to pay for !
    I recommend that the three individuals questioned should focus there energy on there respective families instead on every one's other children,so that they don't become another stastict in how black families suffer from a higher porportion of divorces and children being raised by only females,instead of fathers!

    By Anonymous response to wicks, at 1:44 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • 2:125 Board Member Expenses



    Thersa and Charles,
    1.Board members may not receive compensation for their services.
    Now return those Blackberry phones back to the school!
    2:125 Board Member Expenses



    Kelly and Flowers,
    1.Board members may not receive compensation for their services.
    "I suppose only us,Thersa and Charles,should be expempt from the rules";"We don't have to answer any questions,were above the law";
    "Just scream Chris Welch and hopefully we can deflect the question,";"Who cares every other board member has a phone";"Welch lied to us by passing a backdoor referundum and refused to ask the taxpayers,but Mr. Flowers and Ms. Kely are you two not fleecing the taxpayers with the use of cell phones being paid for by the taxpayers?"
    2:125 Board Member Expenses




    1.Board members may not receive compensation for their services.
    I can NEVER,EVER TRUST a word from the mouth of FLOWERS and KELLY!

    By Anonymous how can we believe you, at 1:55 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • Indeed...Chris Welch is a sick puppy!

    he just needs a hug!

    By Anonymous Chris needs a hug!, at 2:39 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Anonymous telling the truth, at 2:54 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • I’m sorry, is it just me, or does anybody else find Chris Welch’s obsession with Theresa Kelly eerily disturbing?

    I think he has truly lost his mind!

    Oy vey!

    By Anonymous Scarey!, at 2:59 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • "But Yarbrough will be hard press to continue supporting inividuals from 209, who according to sources are being investigated by the feds for corruption,along with misappropiations of funds by certain allies of her.Yarbrough's best chance is to look for new faces to run for the school boards and to build a strong party organization with individuals not ever tied in to those horrendous school districts in Proviso. "
    I'm just wondering, Does that mean Kelly and Flowers are being investigated?
    Possibly for trips and cell phones?

    By Anonymous Say it ain't so, at 3:06 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • Nope...

    Just means you wrote both pieces.

    You're losing it kid-o!

    By Anonymous El Sicko!, at 3:21 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • Ahem

    Another one of my stories stolen

    By Anonymous Russ Stewart, at 4:06 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • Don't plagirize material it's rude, low class and illegal.

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 4:11 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:32 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • I delete posts under "anonymous". If multiple people post under "anonymous" in the same thread it gets quite confusing.

    This is a standard I try to apply consistently. If I'm not doing it, I'm probably crunched for time. And I don't apologize for my inability to be perfectly consistent.

    I also delete comments about other's sex lives if they aren't directly relevant to their public duties.

    And I delete comments that are spam, plagiarized or way-the-fuck off-topic.

    These editorial decisions are made to keep Proviso Probe as reader friendly as possible.

    If you would like to suggest improvements to the rules, you can contact me or insult me. But use a pseudonym, because I delete posts under "anonymous".

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 4:39 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • To the 209 board,
    Break up Proviso 209 into academies of 500 or fewer students. The teachers will recognize all the students and the principal will know all the parents and the names of the students.

    These are schools built on principles that can be applied anywhere - the new three R's, the basic building blocks of better high schools:

    The first R is Rigor - making sure all students are given a challenging curriculum that prepares them for college or work;

    The second R is Relevance - making sure kids have courses and projects that clearly relate to their lives and their goals;

    The third R is Relationships - making sure kids have a number of adults who know them, look out for them, and push them to achieve.

    By Anonymous doing right by children, at 7:34 PM, May 01, 2006  

  • I am still waiting a response from Thersa Kelly regarding her spending tax payer dollars on her cell phone and trips.

    By Anonymous kelly refuses to repond to corruption charges, at 1:12 PM, May 03, 2006  

  • HEY,
    Anyone know what's going on with the lawsuit between Genie and Paulie? Looks like Carl has given up reporting anything on either of these guys. Is Carl being sued? Carl was really big on the story and now reports nothing on MOORE.

    By Anonymous iamabigmama, at 3:39 PM, May 03, 2006  

  • Has any questioned why CHRIS WELCH has 13 family members wroking in district 209. These positions were appointed while he was the board president.

    Cliff Kelly talk show host from WVON talked about job rigging in City Hall (Chicago). I think District 209 and Chris Welch display every month at board meetings the ABUSE OF POWER BY JOB RIGGING.

    Waiting on response from Welch?
    No answer or response is needed from WELCH. We know what his lies will tell!

    By Blogger More-Signs-Than-Votes, at 4:00 PM, May 05, 2006  

  • telling the truth said...
    Ms. Kelly ,I am still waiting for your response to the questions posted 10 days ago.
    What happened,Cat get your tongue?

    By Anonymous parents waiting for answerss, at 11:45 PM, May 05, 2006  

  • Theresa Kelly brought back 7.5 million dollars to District 209!

    I repeat...7.5 Million Dollars!

    We're not concerned with her cell phone bill and travel expense. Not after bringing back that kind of money for our students!

    Let's add this up...if we had 6 more Theresa Kelly's on the board that would equal to 52.5 million!

    Funny...we know the truth! And we don't need a plagiarizer to tell us!

    By Anonymous Parents with the answer, at 3:59 PM, May 08, 2006  

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