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Proviso Probe

Wednesday, January 25, 2006

POL, yardsign thuggery in Forest Park [M06]

Forest Park Review (Seth Stern) covers an incident that occurred on January 15, 2006.

Vincent Jones, a relative of Cook County Board President John Stroger, was leading a crew in placing yardsigns for Eugene Moore and Emanuel Christopher Welch.

A resident objected. Police arrived. Jones threatened the police. Officers told the workers to remove the unauthorized signs. The police asked Jones for ID. Jones cursed at the cops. The confrontation became physical. Jones was arrested for battery and resisting arrest.

Moore paid Jones' bond. The court date is March 16, 2005.

Will Collin Simpson, the State's Attorney lead prosecutor in the Fourth District, go easy on Jones?

The story ends with...
Welch, Moore and Jones did not return calls seeking comment for this story.

In the comments you can speculate about what Welch, Moore or Jones might have said about the incident.


  • According to one poll, Claypool already leads Stroger among Democratic primary voters. See Capitol Fax Blog (Rich Miller).

    BTW, do you think this story will get coverage by other media outlets?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 9:48 AM, January 25, 2006  

  • Why am I not surprised?

    By Anonymous Gary Woll, at 10:49 PM, January 25, 2006  

  • I bet Moore and Welch are so mad, because they had to leave the motel they were playing in to go bail Jones out! Moore and Welch and there gang of thugs are getting really desperate now!They have no message,no money and no manpower other than the 209 janitors!Moore is close to being kicked off the ballot due to fake signatures,he is the laughing stock of Cook County elected officials and his ex-crime partner Paulie Asparza is suing him!
    Welch is becoming more and more delusional and truely believes he is white!Welch and Moore have been exposed as liars,double crossers, and thieves by there ex-friends who oppose them and sue them,by the children of 209 and 89 and 88, and by the media! Welch and Moore were exposed putting up signs in empy houses,in front of there friends crack houses and even Tony Calderone and Frank Pasqualli had to tear down there signs because they are out of control!
    Any elected official who could support these two "Baton Lounge" Clowns are nuts, because these morons are liabilties to any of them and only cause others problems!
    Proviso was relatively quit, until Moore and Welch decided to cause all these problems, by running against Yarbrourgh and making mayors and others pick sides!
    I nthe old days,Joey Boots would take out a liability because it was bad for bussiness to have such liabilites like Welch and Moore around,today the voters will have to do the deed and get rid of these clowns and morons,before they destroy everything in Proviso!
    It's only Bussiness, it's not personal!

    By Anonymous Italia, at 12:06 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • Carl,

    There's an article in today's Sun-Times about this very incident. I don't understand why a guy with such a nice job would be so aggressive after a resident complains. I mean just move along and keep putting the signs up elsewhere where you have permission. I mean it's not like they don't have a lot of visibility as it is. Go figure?

    By Blogger WestsideBen, at 12:07 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • Moore had his hearing yesterday and the case on Signatures was dismissed against him.....

    By Anonymous You Obviously dont' know shit, at 1:33 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • Well...Judging on past actions by Welch and Moore. The person who denied the signs better not work for anyone that cow-tows to these two Saddam like figures or he and his next of kins can expect to be fired. They may put him on house arrest and give him one supervised hour to clear his office.

    By Anonymous Eyes Wide Shut, at 1:40 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • You obviously don't know shit...

    Written like a true cronie! And use spell check next time...

    By Anonymous Eyes Wide Shut, at 1:49 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • Hey Yanez, I gotta Question for you...

    You talk a big game, but how would you cower, if I called your wife and told her all the Tail you get on the side, What she like that, Would you talk so tough

    By Anonymous Cool It Frank, at 1:56 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • This whole story going on right now with the putting up of yard signs illigally,and bailing out his ignorant cronie just further proves that Moore is nothing but a crooked politican. I personally do hope Karen Yarbarough does take the committeeman spot from him this time around! Didn't Carl say that Moore said he never puts up yard signs without permission? Now we see what truth was in that comment! Heres a good point If Gene has so much pull and support in this community, then why would this incident have even happened? Lookes like Moore is losing his grip! I just think its about time Proviso Township wakes up and kicks this scum to the street where he belongs. And no longer lets this shady man have influence over the political direction of this township!

    By Anonymous Proviso Resident, at 7:37 PM, January 26, 2006  

  • The Sun-Times (Steve Patterson) wrote about this incident yesterday.

    The article was the cause of much deliberation in the Esparza v. Moore trial

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 8:52 AM, January 27, 2006  

  • More charges of police brutality!
    Gee Carl, where's your outrage now? Maybe you're seeing how easy it is for some unscrupulous individuals to allege brutality just because they get caught.

    -Anon 1

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:34 AM, January 27, 2006  

  • If Ya'll Would drop the Holier than thou Attidute you would also notice that Karen dumped a fistful of her signs on Parkways in Bellwood and Hillside this week

    So Please, those without sins, cast the first stone...

    By Anonymous I'm Just Saying, at 10:51 AM, January 27, 2006  

  • no one is denying putting up signs where they shouldn't, but to disrepect police and ACT holier than thou because of WHO you know is TOTAL bullshit!

    By Anonymous i'm listening, at 11:59 AM, January 27, 2006  

  • gotta love the police brutality BULLSHIT!

    By Anonymous sick or the same BS, at 12:06 PM, January 27, 2006  

  • I make a distinction between allegations that seem unlikely to be true and allegations that seem more likely to be true.

    Anon 1, do you distinguish between the two types of allegations? Or do you lump everything into "if the cop wasn't caught on video tape then he's innocent"?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 1:16 PM, January 27, 2006  

  • i'm just saying,

    Welcome back. Haven't seen you in awhile.

    What rules should political campaigns observe when placing yardsigns?

    Where is Yarbrough placing signs illegally?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 1:17 PM, January 27, 2006  

  • How does Nyberg know this current charge of brutality is untrue? Was he there?

    Why does Nyberg believe only the other claims of brutality? The Wrigleyville rapists' victim was quoted in the Sun Times that she beat up her assailant to defend herself. Funny, Nyberg never reported that in his blog.

    Yet Nyberg takes the side of a convicted serial rapist that the police did it. Nyberg believes a rapist over his victim and over the police.

    How does Nyberg come up with his "conclusions" on brutality? Not on facts. It's clear that these "conclusions" are made only based on political allegiances.



    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:29 PM, January 27, 2006  

  • Hey Sloan, I got a Question for ya..

    you talk a big game,but how would you cower if i called the feds. and told them the true stories about you and others.You would'nt be so tough,hey?
    I heard Dr. Yanez is currently working at the MCC, he might be the Physician doing the incoming physical exams on you and your friends, and he might be able to get you into the the MCC infirmary so you don't have to sit in a jail cell with real convicts!
    Would you talk so tough then? Would ya? Also you know how the Federales are, they all work together, the federals from the field and the prisons,etc.

    By Anonymous cool it Don, at 3:23 PM, January 27, 2006  

  • The rules are simple, get permission from the owners, an adult, and do NOT place in the parkway, in front of abandoned buildings or other places that are illegal. For example there is a huge Moore or Welch sign at 1st and Huron that is legal but totally blocks the view of any driver trying to pull out onto busy and speedy 1st Ave. I know and abide by the rules and will turn in Saturday the rest of 140 requests for signs achieved, 100 by email replies, 25 by phone calls and 15 by seeing people and asking them. And, you know what, almost 90% are for real voters for Karen's two races and not just doing it for me. I say that with two asides. Signs do not, obviously vote, and when I lost in 2001, and outr entire village ticket went down in a landslide, backed by Moore, we had almost two to one majority of signs up. My second caveat is, we should emulate Melrose Park which still has NO signs up polluting the scenery!!

    By Anonymous Gary Woll, at 10:38 PM, January 27, 2006  

  • Anon 1, do you believe Vincent Jones was mistreated by the Forest Park police?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 4:17 PM, January 28, 2006  

  • Hey anonymous you goof! Point is this...no one is siding with the now convicted rapist. Here's the catch, he was not convicted at the time of his arrest.
    So it goes like this brain surgeon:
    Bad cop beats aresstee (cause he thinks he can) once he's handcuffed him, offender then confesses to the crime, goes to trial, then his sharp attorney get's the confession thrown out because he was beaten, you know coherced. No other substantial evidence, a**hole goes free. Would you rather have it that way?

    Plus, it was not the criminal in that case that said he was beaten, it was other cops sayin it. Nice huh? Not only that but the word is in Forest Park that the chief there only takes complaints selectivley when certain cops are involved, you know, retaliation. Others do whatever they want because they are in the Calderoni camp. Capese'

    By Blogger watching & waiting, at 7:48 PM, January 28, 2006  

  • Yeah, watcher. It was ONE cop who sided with the rapist - and he only said he thought that's what happened. And that cop is getting fired for being a serial liar.

    What about the victim who told the police that she inflicted the injuries on the rapist when she defended hersef? So you goofs side with a rapist and a lying cop over a rapist. Did this rapist get off the hook like you said? No, you morons, he was convicted. Just like that crooked cop who lied about this and other false claims will be.

    Nobody in their right minds believes Vincent Jones or any of these "upstanding citizens" when they make false claims about police brutality. I'm glad this lowlife Jones made the claim against someone in Carl's political camp. Maybe the smug set can see how easy it is to falsely accuse someone.


    By Anonymous Tired of lies, at 8:16 PM, January 28, 2006  

  • Hey einstein, word I'm hearin' is it was the detective that interviewed the rapist that said he was beaten pretty bad there in Forest Park. Told the sargent and he told the chweef, I mean the cheif. And here is one for you, if this cop thats on trial lied about this, why wasn't he charged with that to? Best I can tell, filing a false report is against the policy and the law. Your story holds water like a paper bag.

    Yah, your right, this rapist didn't get off with my scenario, think it doesn't happen though? Think again. Only an a**hole cop beats a human being in handcuffs, dreg's of society or not, no rules = chaos. Maybe your husband, wife, kid, dad, mom, brother or sister will be the next victim of this corrupt department. Hope not huh?

    Are you tired of the lies or are you tired of no one beleieving your lies?

    By Blogger watching & waiting, at 2:23 PM, January 29, 2006  

  • Watcher, you're really bright - tired of lies is right about you.
    The story is so simple, so it will have to be spelled out for you.

    The detective sees the rapist is beat up. The rapist tells the detective, "yeah, the cops did it." Of course, the rapist wouldn't exactly say that his victim did it, now would he?

    And of course the police duly fill out reports and investigate the claim, instead of blowing it off. And that investigation is being used by Nyberg and the cop who's trying to save his job to claim some brutality problem. Give us a break!

    Except there's one problem with all of these conspiracy theories - the VICTIM testified that she inflicted the injuries on the scumbag rapist. Let's see, the word of the victim, or of the rapist...hmmm...

    So, which story do you believe? The rapist's story or his victim's? Don't let politics cloud your common sense, or any sense of decency that normal citizens have.

    By the way, Einstein, it's spelled "C-H-I-E-F" and not "chweef" or "cheif."

    And Nyberg, still waiting for you post the Sun Times article about the Wrigleyville rapist getting sentenced and the victim telling the world that she - and not the cops - beat up the scumbag rapist.


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:01 AM, January 30, 2006  

  • What article do you want linked? What does it say?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 9:03 AM, February 02, 2006  

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