They've named stuff after those who assasinated Fred. His "off the pigs" quote, in the context of the times, was appropriate.
They were out to get him, and they did. It wasn't exactly a fair fight. After properly demonizing him, they eliminated him.
If a brown sign can serve as a reminder of the danger of unchecked power, I, for one, would welcome it. It was power corrupted that allowed it to happen and we should not be swayed from seeing events for what they were.
I think it's a good idea. Some will be reminded. A few will be motivated to learn something they ought to know about. A highly educated (Ph.D.) friend of mine learned about the Haymarket massacre at a Labor Day celebration - it was a barefoot parade with one sign - in rural El Salvador.
Not only should they not name the street after him, the citizens of Chicago should impeach the idiot alderwoman who proposed the idea. Hampton was a ruthless and worthless slug who got what he deserved.
He advocated violence, but his supportors cry foul when violence visitied him. How many lives, black and white, were saved by taking this terroist out?
Of course it was rhetorical, but certainly not empty. Hampton and co-punk Mark Clark were members of organized crime. Doesn't matter how many pancake breakfasts they sponsored.
The Black Panthers was created to benefit the Black Panthers. Drugs, prostitution, extortion, murder for hire.
They were no different than the mob, the IRA, etc.
The world is better off without Fred Hampton. So is his family.
I really wish people "Black People", would do a lot more research instead of just listening to the middle class whites or hankerchief head blacks. Chairman Fred stood for a cause which in that time was killing our communities and our children. there were racist pigs then and there are racist pigs now!! does the term "Racil Profiling" mean anything to you blueflu. I served all of my life as a cop and I have been in the field with the worst of the worst in Chicago PD. If it was bad for black people it was bad for the Party. Kill my dog and I will Kill your cat. It`s simple. Treat all people the same and end the madness. I think a street is an insult myself. An insult to the Hampton family. Chairman Frd was murdered in cold blood no matter how you try to dress it up. Never found guilty of a hate crime or murder to a Pig. The party is responsible for what we now call the free lunch program in schools today. Especially the breakfast programs. Thats on of the main things they tried to do for the community was to make sure as many children as possible went to school on a full stomach and not hungry. But we can go on and on about Chairman Fred. "MORE POWER TO THE PEOPLE" DONT EVER FORGET THE STRUGGLE MY BROTHERS..STAND FOR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fred Hampton was a radical and violence-promoting "leader" in the Black community who served as a negative role model. In his footsteps have followed other Black "leaders" or role-models, many of whom, have expressed their opinions in violent rap music, violent movies, and other media endeavors espousing drug use and dealing, debasement of women, and general antisocial attitudes. Such "leaders" turn the heads of our Black youth and especially many of our Black political leaders who haven't got the courage to stand up to them --- in fact, they support them.
So, what do you think ... do I stand a chance of getting appointed to the Governor's anti-bias panel? courage
He shouldn't but Nat Turner should. Nat Turner should be on American currency as he was the greatest American patriot between the War of 1812 and the Civil War.
Fred was a response, not a statement. The statement he was responding to was,is and always will be, unacceptable to thinking people anywhere.
Absent the statement, punctuated so appropriately, in the vernacular of the day; by the silencing of the respondent, there would be only the power of ideas.
If you really think of Fred as a criminal, the worst thing you can now say about Fred Hampton is that he was the lesser of two evils.
A renegade? Perhaps, but a renegade in the fine tradition of such people.
Nat Turner, a good idea, in addition, not instead. I'd nominate Denmark Vesey for an honorary street, too. Rhetorical, but not empty? What, if anything, does that mean? I still ask for any evidence of any lives bettered by the killing of Fred Hampton.
Fred Hampton deserves, abeit much more than, an honorary street in his honor.
One must understand what Fred was about. He was never in support of violence, but was definitely in support of self defense. Fred wanted to put an end to police brutality especially amongst African Americans and others disenfranchised from the system. And to think that the police murdered him while he was at his most vulnerable.....during his sleep. How cowardly is that, Bluflu?
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I say YES. Hell YES.
They've named stuff after those who assasinated Fred. His "off the pigs" quote, in the context of the times, was appropriate.
They were out to get him, and they did. It wasn't exactly a fair fight.
After properly demonizing him, they eliminated him.
If a brown sign can serve as a reminder of the danger of unchecked power, I, for one, would welcome it.
It was power corrupted that allowed
it to happen and we should not be swayed from seeing events for what they were.
By Anonymous, at 7:53 AM, March 02, 2006
I think it's a good idea. Some will be reminded. A few will be motivated to learn something they ought to know about. A highly educated (Ph.D.) friend of mine learned about the Haymarket massacre at a Labor Day celebration - it was a barefoot parade with one sign - in rural El Salvador.
By RetiredPastorNancy, at 10:17 AM, March 02, 2006
Not only should they not name the street after him, the citizens of Chicago should impeach the idiot alderwoman who proposed the idea. Hampton was a ruthless and worthless slug who got what he deserved.
He advocated violence, but his supportors cry foul when violence visitied him. How many lives, black and white, were saved by taking this terroist out?
By Anonymous, at 12:02 PM, March 02, 2006
blueflu's question seems like an empty rhetorical gesture. if you have a number, blueflu, put it out there with its substatiation.
By RetiredPastorNancy, at 12:21 PM, March 02, 2006
Yes they should,we are not asking them to name the street in thier community,but in ours where he was very much loved and respected.
By Anonymous, at 12:22 PM, March 02, 2006
Is it accurate to summarize blueflu's position as being that unpopular, but legal, political speech should be punished with extralegal executions?
By Carl Nyberg, at 1:46 PM, March 02, 2006
Of course it was rhetorical, but certainly not empty. Hampton and co-punk Mark Clark were members of organized crime. Doesn't matter how many pancake breakfasts they sponsored.
The Black Panthers was created to benefit the Black Panthers. Drugs, prostitution, extortion, murder for hire.
They were no different than the mob, the IRA, etc.
The world is better off without Fred Hampton. So is his family.
By Anonymous, at 5:14 PM, March 02, 2006
Curious states:
Is Bluflu Welch? He sounds very similar to Welch's "against Blacks" statements?
By Anonymous, at 8:12 PM, March 02, 2006
What does Bobby Rush have to say about this?
By Bill Baar, at 8:43 PM, March 02, 2006
I really wish people "Black People", would do a lot more research instead of just listening to the middle class whites or hankerchief head blacks. Chairman Fred stood for a cause which in that time was killing our communities and our children. there were racist pigs then and there are racist pigs now!! does the term "Racil Profiling" mean anything to you blueflu. I served all of my life as a cop and I have been in the field with the worst of the worst in Chicago PD. If it was bad for black people it was bad for the Party. Kill my dog and I will Kill your cat. It`s simple. Treat all people the same and end the madness. I think a street is an insult myself. An insult to the Hampton family. Chairman Frd was murdered in cold blood no matter how you try to dress it up. Never found guilty of a hate crime or murder to a Pig. The party is responsible for what we now call the free lunch program in schools today. Especially the breakfast programs. Thats on of the main things they tried to do for the community was to make sure as many children as possible went to school on a full stomach and not hungry. But we can go on and on about Chairman Fred. "MORE POWER TO THE PEOPLE" DONT EVER FORGET THE STRUGGLE MY BROTHERS..STAND FOR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Anonymous, at 10:22 PM, March 02, 2006
Fred Hampton was a radical and violence-promoting "leader" in the Black community who served as a negative role model. In his footsteps have followed other Black "leaders" or role-models, many of whom, have expressed their opinions in violent rap music, violent movies, and other media endeavors espousing drug use and dealing, debasement of women, and general antisocial attitudes. Such "leaders" turn the heads of our Black youth and especially many of our Black political leaders who haven't got the courage to stand up to them --- in fact, they support them.
So, what do you think ... do I stand a chance of getting appointed to the Governor's anti-bias panel?
courage
By Anonymous, at 7:24 AM, March 03, 2006
He shouldn't but Nat Turner should. Nat Turner should be on American currency as he was the greatest American patriot between the War of 1812 and the Civil War.
By Anonymous, at 11:40 AM, March 03, 2006
Fred was a response, not a statement. The statement he was responding to was,is and always will be, unacceptable to thinking people anywhere.
Absent the statement, punctuated so appropriately, in the vernacular of the day; by the silencing of the respondent, there would be only the power of ideas.
If you really think of Fred as a criminal, the worst thing you can now say about Fred Hampton is that he was the lesser of two evils.
A renegade? Perhaps, but a renegade in the fine tradition of such people.
By Anonymous, at 12:25 PM, March 03, 2006
Who disputes the idea that the attempt to arrest Hampton was a sham looking to create a plausible rationale for killing him?
If Hampton was executed by law enforcement agents, doesn't this suggest that his "extreme" views on power, violence and society were justified?
By Carl Nyberg, at 4:16 PM, March 03, 2006
Nat Turner, a good idea, in addition, not instead.
I'd nominate Denmark Vesey for an honorary street, too.
Rhetorical, but not empty? What, if anything, does that mean? I still ask for any evidence of any lives bettered by the killing of Fred Hampton.
By RetiredPastorNancy, at 4:28 PM, March 03, 2006
Fred Hampton deserves, abeit much more than, an honorary street in his honor.
One must understand what Fred was about. He was never in support of violence, but was definitely in support of self defense. Fred wanted to put an end to police brutality especially amongst African Americans and others disenfranchised from the system. And to think that the police murdered him while he was at his most vulnerable.....during his sleep. How cowardly is that, Bluflu?
By Anonymous, at 6:00 PM, March 09, 2006
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