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Wednesday, March 01, 2006

CRIME, Fred Hampton controversy

Should Hampton get an honorary street named after him?


  • I say YES. Hell YES.

    They've named stuff after those who assasinated Fred. His "off the pigs" quote, in the context of the times, was appropriate.

    They were out to get him, and they did. It wasn't exactly a fair fight.
    After properly demonizing him, they eliminated him.

    If a brown sign can serve as a reminder of the danger of unchecked power, I, for one, would welcome it.
    It was power corrupted that allowed
    it to happen and we should not be swayed from seeing events for what they were.

    By Anonymous rehctaw, at 7:53 AM, March 02, 2006  

  • I think it's a good idea. Some will be reminded. A few will be motivated to learn something they ought to know about. A highly educated (Ph.D.) friend of mine learned about the Haymarket massacre at a Labor Day celebration - it was a barefoot parade with one sign - in rural El Salvador.

    By Blogger PastorNancy, at 10:17 AM, March 02, 2006  

  • Not only should they not name the street after him, the citizens of Chicago should impeach the idiot alderwoman who proposed the idea. Hampton was a ruthless and worthless slug who got what he deserved.

    He advocated violence, but his supportors cry foul when violence visitied him. How many lives, black and white, were saved by taking this terroist out?

    By Anonymous BlueFlu, at 12:02 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • blueflu's question seems like an empty rhetorical gesture. if you have a number, blueflu, put it out there with its substatiation.

    By Blogger PastorNancy, at 12:21 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • Yes they should,we are not asking them to name the street in thier community,but in ours where he was very much loved and respected.

    By Anonymous ARNIE, at 12:22 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • Is it accurate to summarize blueflu's position as being that unpopular, but legal, political speech should be punished with extralegal executions?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 1:46 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • Of course it was rhetorical, but certainly not empty. Hampton and co-punk Mark Clark were members of organized crime. Doesn't matter how many pancake breakfasts they sponsored.

    The Black Panthers was created to benefit the Black Panthers. Drugs, prostitution, extortion, murder for hire.

    They were no different than the mob, the IRA, etc.

    The world is better off without Fred Hampton. So is his family.

    By Anonymous blueflu, at 5:14 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • Curious states:

    Is Bluflu Welch? He sounds very similar to Welch's "against Blacks" statements?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:12 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • What does Bobby Rush have to say about this?

    By Blogger Bill Baar, at 8:43 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • I really wish people "Black People", would do a lot more research instead of just listening to the middle class whites or hankerchief head blacks. Chairman Fred stood for a cause which in that time was killing our communities and our children. there were racist pigs then and there are racist pigs now!! does the term "Racil Profiling" mean anything to you blueflu. I served all of my life as a cop and I have been in the field with the worst of the worst in Chicago PD. If it was bad for black people it was bad for the Party. Kill my dog and I will Kill your cat. It`s simple. Treat all people the same and end the madness. I think a street is an insult myself. An insult to the Hampton family. Chairman Frd was murdered in cold blood no matter how you try to dress it up. Never found guilty of a hate crime or murder to a Pig. The party is responsible for what we now call the free lunch program in schools today. Especially the breakfast programs. Thats on of the main things they tried to do for the community was to make sure as many children as possible went to school on a full stomach and not hungry. But we can go on and on about Chairman Fred. "MORE POWER TO THE PEOPLE" DONT EVER FORGET THE STRUGGLE MY BROTHERS..STAND FOR SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By Anonymous STATE TROOPER, at 10:22 PM, March 02, 2006  

  • Fred Hampton was a radical and violence-promoting "leader" in the Black community who served as a negative role model. In his footsteps have followed other Black "leaders" or role-models, many of whom, have expressed their opinions in violent rap music, violent movies, and other media endeavors espousing drug use and dealing, debasement of women, and general antisocial attitudes. Such "leaders" turn the heads of our Black youth and especially many of our Black political leaders who haven't got the courage to stand up to them --- in fact, they support them.

    So, what do you think ... do I stand a chance of getting appointed to the Governor's anti-bias panel?

    By Anonymous Picme, at 7:24 AM, March 03, 2006  

  • He shouldn't but Nat Turner should. Nat Turner should be on American currency as he was the greatest American patriot between the War of 1812 and the Civil War.

    By Anonymous Proud Man, at 11:40 AM, March 03, 2006  

  • Fred was a response, not a statement. The statement he was responding to was,is and always will be, unacceptable to thinking people anywhere.

    Absent the statement, punctuated so appropriately, in the vernacular of the day; by the silencing of the respondent, there would be only the power of ideas.

    If you really think of Fred as a criminal, the worst thing you can now say about Fred Hampton is that he was the lesser of two evils.

    A renegade? Perhaps, but a renegade in the fine tradition of such people.

    By Anonymous rehctaw, at 12:25 PM, March 03, 2006  

  • Who disputes the idea that the attempt to arrest Hampton was a sham looking to create a plausible rationale for killing him?

    If Hampton was executed by law enforcement agents, doesn't this suggest that his "extreme" views on power, violence and society were justified?

    By Blogger Carl Nyberg, at 4:16 PM, March 03, 2006  

  • Nat Turner, a good idea, in addition, not instead.
    I'd nominate Denmark Vesey for an honorary street, too.
    Rhetorical, but not empty? What, if anything, does that mean? I still ask for any evidence of any lives bettered by the killing of Fred Hampton.

    By Blogger PastorNancy, at 4:28 PM, March 03, 2006  

  • Fred Hampton deserves, abeit much more than, an honorary street in his honor.

    One must understand what Fred was about. He was never in support of violence, but was definitely in support of self defense. Fred wanted to put an end to police brutality especially amongst African Americans and others disenfranchised from the system. And to think that the police murdered him while he was at his most vulnerable.....during his sleep. How cowardly is that, Bluflu?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:00 PM, March 09, 2006  

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